Antonym of 'Executive Controller'

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Most control systems that I know of involve some sort of executive
controller that's responsible for taking some user's desired result and
turning it into commands for other things, and the 'real' controllers
that actually make the loops work.

Some examples of this are:

A flush toilet, where the 'executive controller' is the flush handle,
and the ball valve and float valve are the two 'real' control systems
that handle sequencing the flush and making sure that the tank fills for
the next go round.

The IR imaging systems I used to work on, where the executive controller
is the system control box that's responsible for managing system modes,
and transmitting user commands like 'increment field of view' or 'slew
to this here position' to the appropriate subsystem.  The 'real'
controllers in this case are the actual motion control loops that make
the lenses move, or causes the turret to slave to a different location.

So is there a recognized name for the 'real' controller?  I always just
call it the 'controller', and if I need to talk about it at all I call
the other thing the 'executive controller'.  But I'm giving a
presentation in a few weeks to a bunch of people who aren't control
systems folks, and if I use 'controller' and 'executive controller'
they'll be confused.

Of course I've seen the terms 'motion controller' and 'process
controller', but those are just 'real' or 'non-executive' controllers --
they don't give me a general term to use.

I'm thinking 'dynamic controller'.

Any opinions?

Thanks.

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Perhaps the decentralized controller literature has what you are
looking for? Just a pure guess.

fred


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Fred Stevens wrote:


Possible.  I'll have to dig.  That's a lot of material to dig through
for just one nugget -- but if no one makes my life easier it's a
suggestion I may take.

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Tim Wescott wrote:

That's an interesting question. Without ever having given it much
thought, I've referred to them collectively as "local" controllers, and
specifically along the lines of "claw controller", "left knee
controller", and other task-specific identifiers. Will that approach do?

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You wouldn't be referring to supervisory control and regulatory control, are
you?

Michael


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Yes, but in a servo system it's not 'regulatory' control, it's, well, a
servo.  So I guess I need something that means 'servo and/or regulator'
but sounds nicer...

Herman Family wrote:


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Gee, Tim, this one is a little tough.  I suppose you could call the lower
level stuff a "device", with the idea that a device performs an action,
while a regulator or controller controlls the device, and a supervisor
controls the regulator.

On the humorous side, the opposite of "executive control" could be
"functional control".   Hmm.  That looks like it works on a couple levels...

Michael


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I've always found that the best approach with this is to come up with the
most intuitively satisfying descriptions you can. That helps people
remember, and there's always the chance that your 'invention' will capture
the vernacular ('priceless' in the Mastercard ads).

Master/slave? Initiator / implementer? Don't think I've hit the spot. I'm
sure to think about it over the next few days, I'll post again if something
comes up.







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What's wrong with "supervisory control"?

Bruce




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Bruce Durdle wrote:

Nothing. Tim wants a good term for the controllers in the system.

Jerry
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Bruce Durdle wrote:

I use that as a synonym of 'executive control', not the antonym.

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Tim Wescott wrote:

Lots of interesting responses from control theorists (with the field's
terminology).  I wonder what sort of an audience you are to confront?
Maybe terms from *that* field of expertise would clarify matters, and be
immediately recognized?

So, maybe, "auxiliary controller", "associated controller", "subservient
controller", "effector", even "instantiating controller" (uggh!) if your
audience comes from business, law, medicine, software etc.

Just a thought....<grin>

Geoff.


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I second the question.   This wouldn't be for a textbook on the subject,
would it?


Michael



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Herman Family wrote:

No.  It's for a talk that accompanies a book signing for a text on the
subject.  The audience will probably be mostly software engineers with
no control systems training, with a sprinkling of the general public and
a few friends-and-relations.  Ideally it'll read like a Scientific
American article -- I have to assume some prior knowledge, but I can't
assume any prior _control systems_ knowledge.

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Tim Wescott wrote:
  It's for a talk that accompanies a book signing for a text on the

How 'bout, "blue collar", directed goal, slave or follower controller.


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John Popelish wrote:


I like "blue collar" -- I think even if I name it 'dynamic controller' I
will still explain that it's the carrying out the work.

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Tim Wescott wrote:

I like it, because not only does it imply it is not concerned with the
"big picture", it doesn't care what the big picture is.

That is someone else's job.

It just gets its job done, and collects its pay.

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What about 'initiation controller' and 'action controller'?


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Anthony wrote:


What about the term I used above without noticing: task-specific controller?

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