| You might want to look at the DC rating of these breakers. Some are | rated by Square D to handle over 500VDC in UPS service, in which the | DC system is ungrounded. Typically, the positive DC lead is broken | through two adjacent breaker poles in series while the negative DC | lead is broken through the third breaker pole. Merlin Gerin has an | IEC rating of 1000VDC on their Masterpact brekaer.
Supposedly having the poles in series will increase the effective total voltage withstand, especially with respect to breaking the arc. And that is especially important for DC given no zero crossover to help extinguish the arc.
But I'm just wondering about the AC aspect. If a single pole can handle 480 volts on its own, then wouldn't two poles in series be able to handle 960 volts together? At least with single phase, the zero crossings happen at the same time.
So if we have line A coming in through pole A then to the load, and back from the load is line B back through pole C (not B), we have
960 volts going through 2 poles. This is an Edison style split single phase supply, but at 480/960 volts (I picked this level as there are common breakers for 480 and not for 960 specifically).
Suppose there is a fault to ground in line A. The breaker will open due to the current surge, and an arc forms across the contacts as pole A opens. But this is a 480 volt arc, fully within the capability of the breaker to interrupt and extinguish the arc at least by the next zero crossing.
Now suppose there is a fault between line A and line B. This is a fault across 960 volts. But this fault also is going through two poles opening at the same time. So the voltage should be split across the two arcs. The question here at this point is: does the wiring of 2 poles in series really work like that, and for AC? Is this the theory that should apply for the arc issues?
Then there is the breaker case dielectric issue. Obviously it should be able to withstand 480 volts to ground, so one layer of the dielectric would have that rating. If there were two such layers between adjacent poles, that should give them a higher withstand capability. Would it be the 960 volts? But since these breakers are a single unit design, I can imaging that only one layer of dielectric wall exists between adjacent arc chambers. So that's why I am wondering about the voltage withstand specifically between the far poles of A and C, where B would be (held if necessary) at a potential half way between (that would be
480 volts relative to either side if 960 is applied to A and C). Since it is an Edison style single phase system, the middle pole can be held at ground potential, and thus no more than 480 volts to either of the other poles, by connecting both its in and out lugs to neutral (this is not implying that it switches the neutral ... just connect both of them to the solid neutral bar).
| Regards, | Chris Johnston | |>Consider a 3-pole circuit breaker with the pole sections side by side |>so that pole 1 and pole 3 have pole 2 in the middle. This is a very |>typical circuit breaker design for molded case breakers from companies |>like Cutler-Hammer and Square-D. These typically have a voltage rating |>giving a single number, and suitable for that voltage line to line and |>relative to ground. For example a 480 volt rating would allow use in |>a 480Y/277 volt WYE system, as well as a 480 volt corner grounded delta |>system. These breakers typically have ampere ratings as high as 1200. |>This would be in contrast to typical miniature branch breakers that have |>a dual voltage rating, one for line to ground and the other for line to |>line, such as 120/240 or 480/277. |>
|>Here's what I want to learn more about. Presumably these breakers |>might not have any greater line to line voltage rating than line to |>ground because they may be constructed with no extra insulation levels |>between the poles. The insulation between poles could very well be |>just the same as the insulation to the outside. This would contrast |>with placing two or three single pole breakers side by side where you |>would have double the insulation between poles, and some amount of |>greater voltage capability between them (perhaps). |>
|>What I want to focus on in a 3-pole molded case breaker is the voltage |>"endurance" capability (I'm avoiding the term "rating" here so as not |>to be confused with formal standard ratings such as UL, or manufacturer |>specifications that could incur legal liability) between the FAR poles, |>e.g. between pole 1 and pole 3 of a three pole breaker. Is there any |>reason there could not be an even higher voltage "endurance" between |>these far poles, as long as the middle pole in between does not have a |>relative voltage any greater than the formal rating? |>
|>Consider a 480 volt 3 pole breaker, such as Square-D model FAL34100 |>or others like it. It can be used on a 480 volt delta three phase |>power system. But what about a single phase system where there are |>two poles at 180 degrees phasing, with 480 volts relative to ground |>on each, e.g. a 480-0-480 system, with the middle pole connected to |>the grounded neutral wire of this system? Between pole 1 and pole 2 |>there would be 480 volts. Between pole 2 and pole 3 there would be |>480 volts. But between pole 1 and pole 3 there would be 960 volts! |>But these poles are well separated by the middle pole. |>
|>If that's a little high for you, then try a lower voltage breaker such |>as the QDL32100 (rated for 240 volts, including 240 delta) being used |>on a 240-0-240 single phase system connected as described, where it |>would see 480 volts between pole 1 and pole 3. |>
|>In what way could a breaker like that NOT have a voltage "endurance" |>capability of 960 volts between poles 1 and 3 when the middle pole is |>connected to the grounded conductor that has no more than 480 volts |>relative to either phase? |>
|>Please note that I am NOT asking about formal specification or rating. |>I'm NOT asking of such a connection would be in compliance with any |>electrical code, or if such a connection would be consistent with the |>purpose it is safety listed for. I am asking about the physics of the |>design, and any aspect of electricity that would make it not possible |>for a breaker to generally be capable of doing this. |>such systems are in common use. |