Anti Auction Gloat

You should post his phone number here. Then we could all bid on it. Three hundred, four hundred, two-fifty, etc.

Jim

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I'll bet that he's got it sitting outside to boot. He may not really have a lathe anymore.

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Keep watching the paper. I'd wager it will come down in price, maybe to less than your final bid.

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I like Jim's idea. Number please?

Shall it go in decreasing amounts, or let him think someone will show up with $5500? May as well screw with him. Then the OP can go look at it and offer his original bid after a shill looks and says it is worth $200.

michael

On Tue, 25 May 2004 18:18:03 GMT, Ron Thompson vaguely proposed a theory ......and in reply I say!: remove ns from my header address to reply via email

I doubt it. The OP said the guy bought it a few years ago, and apparently has not used it. He's in no hurry. Maybe he _should_ be if he's down on his luck, but he's a greedy bastard. They hang onto a thing at way overprice even though it's killing them and costing them.

Sometimes in a workplace you find snot on the wall of the toilet cubicles. You feel "What sort of twisted child would do this?"....the internet seems full of them. It's very sad

I find the idea intriguing, but ....

An anti-shill(push price down, not up). What a concept.

I think Old Nick is right, and the price is just going to stay(or move just a little).

Probably has been stored outside too. If that was the case, I think I would have to cry. I've kicked myself ever since I missed that one, and to have it end up like this just adds a little salt to the wound.

JW

$5500? May

bid after a

You were apparently dealing with very inexperienced sellers.

RJ

It seems rather unethical to deal with private sellers in such a fashion. Is the deal really that sweet knowing you screwed the guy out of the money through an organized program of deceit?

snip This is what management does to workers every day.

Let me clarify. I'm AGAINST that sort of thing. A seller should have already researched the value of their item, and have a set price in mind, so as not to be taken in with that sort of thing. That was the reason for my statement about inexperience. The little game they're talking about won't work on me, because I know what I'm going to get for an item, and before I'd sell it for less, I'd give it to someone in need, or soak it in gas and stick a match to it right in front of the unscrupulous potential buyer, just to see the look on his face. My best friend has done this before, on a collectable, after the guy pissed him off. His theory is that it made the ones left in the world more valuable. We sell things because we WANT to, not because we need to, therefore we have that luxury, and that resolve.

RJ

I was referring to the OP, not you, sorry I didn't make that clear. Sellers should research the value of their goods, but in the real world, they are often at a disadvantage for various reasons. We can't all be experts in everything :-)

Something smells a little fish here folks.

How many of you have three friends who would volunteer to go to a strangers house and pretend to be a potential customer for a used piece of whatever and then verbally bash it and put it down in the hopes that fourth person would actually be able to buy the item at a reduced price.

I don't have three friends like that...... Do you.?????

Especially friends that would do something like that more than once.

I smell fish...... How about you.?????

A friend of mine did this from a different angle. He wanted to trade in his Pugeot so he had a couple of people call the dealer looking for one, When he brought his in to trade he got a very good offer because the dealer thought he had several poten tial buyers for the car, but they were shills.

I wonder what happened to the notion of Ethics?

Oh yeah, I forgot - you can make more money if you leave them behind ---

sad, isn't it, what we stoop to - I guess prisoner abuse, fraudulent accounting, and political payoffs are just the logical extension.

Both of these scenarios are wrong. they are cheating a person or a business. If someone cheats themselves, so be it, if someone is dishonest, then no problem, but as stated, these are problem scenarios

Don't sweat it William.

After selling new and used cars for many years I can tell you that when trading in Betsy the first thing the dealer is interested in is the wholesale value of the car.

That's why they all have those little black books that are updated weekly.

One of the biggest mistakes and traps that consumers fall into, is loosing sight of what the difference is between the retail price of the new car and what they are getting for their trade.

Boys..... When your trading in the clunker it doesn't matter what you get on trade, it only matters what YOU pay as the difference.

If the previous poster truely thinks that they got the best of a car dealer when trading in a Pugeot ( of all things ) then let them.

People don't get to be dealer principles (owners), sales managers, or running the box (finance end), because they are dumb.

QUIKEY QUESTION -----> How many of you really believe that you can buy at car at zero percent interest, or dealer invoice.

Cause if you do then there is that famous bridge in Brooklyn that I'll let you have for a hundred buck cash.

it isn't whether the ploy was successful, it's unethical to try to cheat someone. Even a car dealer (there are some honest ones out there, I met one once)

as for the "at >

Dealers don't actually pay invoice for their cars (at least they don't if they keep them on their lots for less than 90 days). Different manufacturers have differing amounts of hold back. I don't know what it is currently for GM, but for Nissan it is 3%. There are often other incentives too. Inovice pricing is just a sales tool.

Gary

Gary..wierd question..but one Ive always wondered about....

What happens when a dealer simply cannot sell a particular new car. Lets say its 2003 and the 2004s are coming out. They still have one on the lot from 2002. Do they return it to the factory?

Gunner

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