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Hi guys,

I've seen pictures of threaded tapers being machined on lathes and was
wondering what the hell use they are? I mean, since the diameter of
the threaded section is constantly varying, what can it possibly be
screwed into? I cannot imagine any nut or internal thread that would
accommodate such a piece of work.

Kindly disabuse me of my ignorance if you can, thanks.

P.

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I saw something like that, on the base of a camera, back in the film days.
The threaded taper would atach the camera to a tripod. Other than that, I
havn't seen such.

Christopher A. Young
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Hi guys,

I've seen pictures of threaded tapers being machined on lathes and was
wondering what the hell use they are? I mean, since the diameter of
the threaded section is constantly varying, what can it possibly be
screwed into? I cannot imagine any nut or internal thread that would
accommodate such a piece of work.

Kindly disabuse me of my ignorance if you can, thanks.

P.



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On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 08:17:10 -0400, Stormin Mormon wrote:

I haven't seen any threaded tapers for tripod-attaching, just 1/4-20
or 3/8-16 straight threads, but mechanical remote shutter releases
often have a tapered thread, as clearly seen in following photo.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:OldCamera_CableRelease.jpg

--
jiw

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On 7/29/2012 8:00 AM, phaedrus wrote:

Pipe threads are tapered...  It makes it more likely to seal when tight.

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 Please elaborate further. Pipe taps are tapered, and spring winding
mandrels could be mistaken for taps.

jsw



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No, it's not a pipe thread; very much steeper taper than a pipe
thread...

One such as I refer to appears in South Bend's handbook, How to Run a
Lathe at p.82. Sorry I have no facilities to upload a scan of the
picture. :(

Jim Wilkins wrote:


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BTW, is there a FAQ for this group?

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I'll start writing it.

Christopher A. Young
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BTW, is there a FAQ for this group?



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There is one.

Scott Logan used to post a link to it every month, but I think he got so
disgusted with the political bs that he gave up.

http://w3.uwyo.edu/~metal/faqa.html

Paul K. Dickman



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    Yes -- but at least a decade out of date.  Whoever was
maintaining it (at a college) must have retired, and the files are just
still there (last I checked), along with archives of many years of
postings until that script was shut down.  It was not a particularly
smart script, so if you are on a Windows system, be warned that it
archived a few copies of a virus current at the time. :-)

    Here is the URL:

    <http://w3.uwyo.edu/~metal/

and it is still there.

    Enjoy,
        DoN.

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The picture in the SB book is just an illustration. Exaggerated to make the
setup clear.
If you need a to see something modern, threaded with that much taper look at
a tapered buffing spindle.

Paul K. Dickman



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On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:25:23 -0700 (PDT), phaedrus


http://wewilliams.net/SBLibrary.htm 44 page booklet.
P.82 does not compute.  Was it another handbook?

(Unfortunately, I probably can't help you but I'm curious, just the
same.)

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I suspect that drawing exaggerates the length to make the taper more
evident than it would be on a real pipe tap.

http://www.hycrack.co.uk /

jsw



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    O.k.  That reminds me of another use.  The arbors on which
buffing wheels are mounted.  You need a right-hand thread on one side
of the grinder used to drive it, and a left-hand one on the other side.
Just push the buffer on, then switch on and it self tightens.


    Probably a buffing wheel arbor.  Or just a demonstration on how
to do it.  O.K.  Looking at the copy which I have here, it actually
states in the description "Tapered screw threads, such as pipe threads
... " Obviously, the one being shown is not a pipe thread, but it could
be used as the arbor for a buffing wheel.  Or just to train an
apprentice on how to do it.

    This is in Volume 1 Edition 50 which happens to be within reach.

    If I had a matching taper tap, I might use it for studs designed
to screw in and wedge really tight.

    Enjoy,
        DoN.

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On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 05:00:32 -0700 (PDT), phaedrus


Oil drilling pipe tool joints are also taper threaded.
Cheers,
John B.

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http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/techarticles/drivetrain/mopp_1203_cast_i =
ron_cylinder_head_crack_repair/index.html

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On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 05:00:32 -0700, phaedrus wrote:


No one's mentioned wood screws yet, which are tapered along their length,
or sheet metal screws, which are tapered at the nose.

Aren't taps tapered?

Spring winding mandrels -- I never thought of that.

--
Tim Wescott
Control system and signal processing consulting
www.wescottdesign.com

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On Sunday, July 29, 2012 8:53:54 AM UTC-7, Tim Wescott wrote:

 

Modern taps aren't really tapered, the threads are just on a tapered shaft
(the top of the crest is ground off of the leading teeth, so cutting is
progressive and not done all with the first tooth).   But, old-timey taps
WERE tapered, so you could get any tightness of  nut you wanted.

This was important when bolts were made with threading-plate type
dies (with poor diameter control) on forged rods (again, with poor
diameter control).

Another tapered-screw application is seen on the pilot of auger-type
wood boring bits.   Yet another, is sometimes seen on citrus juicers.

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On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 10:03:58 -0700, whit3rd wrote:


<snip>

Which reminds me of the puree-ing attachment on our Kitchen-aid mixer,
which is a long tapered screw into a conical screen.

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Tim Wescott
Control system and signal processing consulting
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The threads aren't (except for pipe). The taper is a separate grind
that creates the cutting edges. Run a nut onto one and examine the
free play.

jsw



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