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Has anyone stumbled across a decent video or tutorial which addresses
moving a circuit from a solderless breadboard into a more permanent form?
I don't think I want to wirewrap, but rather than move to a soldered
proto-board which simply mimicks a breadboard, I'd prefer to be able to
use smaller wafers to make small permanent 1-off type circuits ... and I'm
not quite ready to go CAD/PCB (at least not this week) ...
Just looking for pointers *BEFORE* I make smoke happen ... and any tips on
construction methods (sockets, wire routing, placement etc) which will
lead to boards I'd be proud to show off (as a software guy, this is
important 8-) would be much appreciated.
I've been playing with AVR's, and avr-libc/avr-gcc, and I've been having
*TONS* of fun ... and learning lots, so now its time to actually *MAKE*
something ... boowahh hahhh hahh (sorry, mad scientist laugh not intended)
...
Cheers,
Rob Sciuk
Rich Webb posted on
Re: help moving from breadboard to proto board ...
On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:11:48 -0400, Spam@ControlQ.com wrote:
You might look at the "stripboard" construction technique. It's kind of
a midway step between breadboards and purpose-build PCBs.
There is a free layout app for stripboard over at
http://veecad.com/index.html . They also have an inexpensive paid version
with a few more capabilities but the free one is fine to find out if you
like the technique.
Stripboards are available at (among other places)
http://www.futurlec.com/ProtoBoards.shtml along with some more
traditional protoboards.
One advantage of going this route is that you can choose to place and
connect directly in VeeCAD -- with the advantage that's its easier to
change your mind on the screen than with soldered connections -- or you
can use one of several free schematic capture programs that can save to
the Protel netlist format, including TinyCAD and Kicad.
--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
John Nagle posted on
Re: help moving from breadboard to proto board ...
Spam@ControlQ.com wrote:
Bite the bullet and go CAD/PCB. The CAD tools are free and boards aren't
that expensive any more. ExpressPCB and the free version of Eagle are
popular. You can always design a "prototyping section" of uncommitted
holes onto your custom board.
There used to be various prototyping boards with standard pads for
soldering standard components. Twin Industries ("http://www.twinind.com/" )
still makes them, but they're now such low-volume products that they
cost more than custom boards.
John Nagle
Joe Pfeiffer posted on
Re: help moving from breadboard to proto board ...
Spam@ControlQ.com writes:
Yes, you are. Trust me on this. Go to expresspcb.com, download their
software, and design your PCB. Next time, use their software to design
your circuit first; doing the PCB design will be that much easier. You
ship the design and your VISA number to them, and three beautiful boards
appear on your doorstep a couple of days later.
That said, I'm going to try gschem, gpcb, and batchpcb.com (run by
sparkfun.com) for my next project. The expresspcb.com software is the
only thing that requires me to run Windows, and it would be nice to
never have to run it again.
--
As we enjoy great advantages from the inventions of others, we should
be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours;
and this we should do freely and generously. (Benjamin Franklin)
GregS posted on
Re: help moving from breadboard to proto board ...
I have made several things with that. I still use raw Vector boards with flea
clips, and
stranded 24 guage high temp wire. Thats about the closest you can come to
a breadboard. in fact I usually just go straight there and avoid the breadboard.
For integrated circuits with pins, use the solder in and then wirewrap. These are
not cheap.
greg
Re: help moving from breadboard to proto board ...
(GregS) wrote:
Perf board construction............
http://zekfrivolous.com/misc/perfboard.JPG
Re: help moving from breadboard to proto board ...
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010, GregS wrote:
Now *THAT's* what I'm talking about!
Am I the only one who believes that there is something about this which
has its own charm???
Thanks, Greg. (any chance of viewing the BOTTOM of that board??)
Oh, and thanks to all for the pointers and good advice etc. I know in the
long run that I'll be etching pcb's, but until then, I have some perf
board wafers, and I want to make use of them. I just want them to look
nice, much like Greg's effort ...
Cheers,
Rob.
Robert Roland posted on
Re: help moving from breadboard to proto board ...
On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:11:48 -0400, Spam@ControlQ.com wrote:
This week, you could make a board without CAD. Just draw the traces on
the copper by hand with a waterproof marker, then etch and drill.
Next week, when you start using CAD, you'll convert to SMD, so the
amount of drilling will be almost eliminated.
I have good success with the toner transfer method. Fast, cheap, easy
and no chemicals other than water. I use a laminator.
In that case, CAD/PCB is THE way to go. A proto board or stripboard
will never look quite finished. It'll always have that rough,
"slapped-together" look.
--
RoRo
Re: help moving from breadboard to proto board ...
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010, Robert Roland wrote:
...
Note to group, I've just downloaded kicad, and a very thorough looking
tutorial ... sigh ... also, Canada's remants of RadioShack is VERY
expenive ... protoboards range from $6 - $9 cdn for simple perfboard.
Now, I guess I've got to source copper clads and ferric chromate ... or
some such irritant 8-).
Thanks for the pointers, all.
Cheers,
Rob.
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