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I am looking for a way to control vehicles somewhat larger than
typical hobby stuff. Say the size of a small lawn tractor.

This would be for steering so I am thinking about using something
like a more muscular servo motor.

I'm aware of hobby style giant servos. They might work but not
sure if they would be beefy enough.

Industrial servo motors seem to be quite different from hobby stuff.
I have one that's rated 128 VDC, has 5 wires running to the motor and
a bunch more off the attached encoder. No real idea what's going on
here.

Searches on servo motor control bring up mostly hobby information
which I am familiar with.

There is the open servo project which might provide part of
a solution. If I can beef up the control so that it can handle
something
like a cordless drill motor.

I recenly built a remote control tricycle. I handled the steering
using a regular DC motor controller (Victor 883) and got around the
limit switch problem by building a small spring loaded clutch. (Some
details
on my web site under "builders log".)

But I don't really like this solution as there is no automatic
centering
feature.

Any other ideas? What do those guys like Mythbusters do for remote
control full size cars?

Thanks for any help.

DOC

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doc@sympatico.ca wrote:


Re: larger servo questions

With a little clever thinking, it may be possible to have a $10
hobby servo be the brains for controlling very large electric
motors.

On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 18:18:05 -0700, doc@sympatico.ca wrote:



Re: larger servo questions


You might want to have a look, or even talk to the folks at Kairos
Autonomi.

http://www.kairosautonomi.com/

They have a kit that can be bolted onto basically any vehicle, and
convert it to autonomous operation with 4 bolts. They are in the new
DARPA challenge, and have sponsored several other teams with a
converted vehicle.

In their product is a ServoPod(TM) we make. It is very useful for
making closed loop servos. Basically a ServoPod(TM) an H-bridge and
some sort of positional feedback, and a PID loop, tune it up, and
you've got control. Of course for a single channel, there are cheaper
ways to go.

As others have suggested, you can probably convert an existing RC
Servo controller to use a bigger motor. There are kits that use an
external pot, and extended gearing. I've seen those on both Lynxmotion
and Servo City. Lynxmotion even sells the guts out of a RC Servo, just
add motor and pot. Might need some amplification of the outputs
though, to get strong enough to run a steering wheel.

--
Randy M. Dumse
www.newmicros.com
Caution: Objects in mirror are more confused than they appear.


Re: larger servo questions

Here's an interesting How-to that might shed some light on your problem.

http://www.lynxmotion.com/images/html/ht01.htm

Good Luck



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We had some servos here years ago. They were DC motors several inches
in diameter. Usually a resistive pot for the feedback loop. Controlled by
a DC amp pretty much a mono HIFI amp. Larger turntables were around several
years ago, using Contraves gear, switching power amps, and a turntable
about 4 feet high. I'm not sure what the motor was. Brushed motors are
problematic. Stepper motors are not required but don't suffer from brush wear,
but are power wastefull at times. I don't know what the current trend is
on motors. I would like to find out. A geared mechanisn is highly recommended
allthough noisey.

greg

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I just remembered a horrible thought, slip rings !!

I guess they are still around for multi axis rotation.

greg

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    --For a pictorial on some beautiful slip ring work slide on over to
carpisaturo.com and see what he's done.

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