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forex10@yahoo.com posted on May 31, 2007, 12:47 pm
Hello,
Is it possible at this time with the present level of processing power
to build (or program) a Honda type robot that could carry out these
functions: memorize 5 - 8 faces, respond to some sentance commands &
carry out limited conversation, carry out a few cleaning chores - i.e.
dusting, cleaning sinks, & hopefully the dreaded chore of cleaning
toilets.
What I am trying to find out if this could be done by itself, or would
it still be needed to be connected to a super computer?
I am not trying to build a super robot, but something that would have
at least some usefullness.
Joel
Is it possible at this time with the present level of processing power
to build (or program) a Honda type robot that could carry out these
functions: memorize 5 - 8 faces, respond to some sentance commands &
carry out limited conversation, carry out a few cleaning chores - i.e.
dusting, cleaning sinks, & hopefully the dreaded chore of cleaning
toilets.
What I am trying to find out if this could be done by itself, or would
it still be needed to be connected to a super computer?
I am not trying to build a super robot, but something that would have
at least some usefullness.
Joel
Joe Strout posted on
Re: Present Robot Potential?
Easy, provided a relatively noise-free environment.
Very, very hard.
Also very hard. :)
Best,
- Joe
John Nagle posted on
Re: Present Robot Potential?
Maybe not. If you use the right tool for the job.
An end effector that combines a wet/dry vacuum and
a pressure washer would make this workable. Then it's
a spray-painting job, which robots do just fine.
Something for cleaning institutional bathrooms in large
buildings might be commercially feasible in Japan.
John Nagle
Re: Present Robot Potential?
What I'm talking about is a scaled-down version of this:
http://www.prginc.com/Clean&Rmv/recyclean.html
Demonstrates that a combo pressure washer/vacuum works
just fine.
John Nagle
Joe McKibben posted on
Re: Present Robot Potential?
That thing is huge! Is that suppose to maneuver around your house?
Joe McKibben
Re: Present Robot Potential?
No, the point is that you can combine a pressure washer and a vacuum
to clean without using brushes and without flooding the area.
John Nagle
Wayne C. Gramlich posted on
Re: Present Robot Potential?
Alternatively, the toilet bowl itself could be coated
with teflon(tm) to make the job itself easier and less
dreaded.
-Wayne
Shavak Chandra posted on
Re: Present Robot Potential?
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This is an interesting question. I was wondering about something
similar but not quite as advanced. See inline for my question.
Joe Strout wrote:
How? I was thinking of possibly having the robot send the image to the
desktop and then letting the desktop do some image processing. I have
never done this don't know if that is possible.
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This is an interesting question. I was wondering about something
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Very, very hard.
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Also very hard. :)
Best,
- Joe
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Re: Present Robot Potential?
You need desktop-level processing power, but I'd put it on the robot --
remember, you were asking about something the size of Asimo, which would
have plenty of room for a modern desktop computer in its chest. (Look
at the size of the Mac Mini from Apple, for example, which is what I
have on my desk -- no, that's not a CD player, that's the computer!)
Then, you'd run face-recognition software, maybe something like OpenCV.
Best,
- Joe
Gordon McComb posted on
Re: Present Robot Potential?
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You don't need much computing power to clean a toilet or dust the
furniture. You do need a very, very robust mechanism to get around the
typical house without falling over the cat or bruising up little Timmy.
A Pentium 4 can run most off-the-shelf face recognition and speech
recognition software.
Why hasn't anyone built and marketed such an obviously useful device?
Apart from the difficulty in engineering the thing, there are six
billion people on this planet, four or five billion would be happy to
have this kind of job for the most minimum of pay. The robot competition
would have to clean a lot of toilets before it paid for itself.
-- Gordon
JGCASEY posted on
Re: Present Robot Potential?
The dream of the 50's where robots could do all the drudge work
failed to predict the existence of cheap labour. Even the best
robot comes no where near the cheapness a biological slave.
Those with the means of production or ownership of the resources
have no incentative to share those riches and replace cheap
labour with machines and thus provide an environment in which
better and cheaper hardware could evolve.
--
JC
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