ROL NEWS--AeroTech Re-releases D21T Single-Use Motors

Hope Gary will answer the important questions - barcode & bag thickness.

In article snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com, Phil Stein at snipped-for-privacy@ArielSystems.spamsks.net wrote on 7/20/05 6:30 PM:

Barcode- of course.

Bag thickness- 0.004"

Gary

Thanks for your speedy reply to this critical question. I'm surprised ROL doesn't provide this info for everything. 8-)

Actually, another real question. Must, or have, these been rectified? They've been out of production for about 4 years, and are now made in a much different facility. We all know that there might be a problem... Just look at the Ellis J350s!

Just use Kevlar to build the fin can & you 'shouldn't' have a problem.

8-)

Barcode: yes Bag thickness: DOT excessive.

Point.

In article , "AZ Woody" wrote a self-answering question:

Made at Ellis Mountain (explod-o-jets). Cedar City, UT is "blessed".

:)

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while you were looking at the big picture, you missed the fact that the time stamps of the message don't match!! horror of horrors, the press release is "Web posted at: 5:37 PM EDT" but the new server time stamp is clearly 3 MINUTES LATER. harrumph.

Rectified 'm? Hell, damn near killified 'm!

(I think you meant "recertified", no?) ;-)

COuld be a latency conspiracy - Iz better investigate. 8-)

In article 4UCDe.78$ snipped-for-privacy@news.uswest.net, AZ Woody at snipped-for-privacy@here.not.email wrote on 7/20/05 7:29 PM:

The D21T is still NAR "rectified":

The "Ellis J350s" were made in eastern Texas in a facility that did not have temperature and humidity control. AeroTech actually had the same problem in Las Vegas during the summer "monsoon season". The manufacturing facility was cooled with "swamps" which raised the humidity to similar levels for a few months of each year.

Current production is in Utah in a temperature and humidity controlled environment. The facility was examined by a DOT-approved lab and was found to be acceptable by the DOT.

If you read our DOT approvals you will see the Cedar City, UT address listed at the top.

Gary

For over $2.4m in capital cost, Iwould hope so.

What was Ellis, about $50k in capital cost or so?

Jerry

These were one of many AT motors that lost their contest certification when they became unavailable after the fire.

I would address your concerns to NAR S&T. I'm sure they will be as responsive to you as TMT has been to me :-)

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L >>> To reply, there's no internet on Mars (yet)!

Say what you will about the past, but Aerotech (RCS) (Gary) is making an effort to really resume.

And say what you will, but throughout this process notably including being attacked by both the local authorities and his own lawyers, he has BIG balls.

Jerry

"I bet there are more people collecting string into balls than there are flying high power rockets."

- Steve Cello, Tripoli Prefect

"I also filed complaints against people posting this same garbage on CIS and turned in the people who's IP was back traced. How about some headers to prove your point? If you don't have any, then drop the lies because your accusations are unfounded. You don't have the balls to post using your own name and want to place blame on me for something that originated from Tripoli itself."

- Dave Gawlick

Gary, what is the price of this D engine please?

In article snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com, Stan at snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com wrote on 7/21/05 7:23 PM:

$11.95 each suggested retail.

Gary

Darn spell checkers! You know what was meant!

Seems the page at NAR you reference says the motor was last certified

9/3/95, and as it's been not made in almost 4 years, and clearly seems to be out of the "three year rule" for S&T and TMT!

Come on Gary.. Do you have some deal where S&T doesn't follow their own rules for your motors? Per the NAR documentation you provided, it's been almost 10 years since they tested this motor!

The Ellis J350 "problem" might not have occurred if S&T/TMT had re-certed the motor based on the change of manufacturer, the location, etc...

RCS (the current manufacturer) is not the same company as Aerotech (the company that had the certification). You bought the AT IP in a fire sale, from your self, but the change in manufacturing location/environment means a big change which needs to be tested!

RCS is a different company, making motors at a different location (state) than AT. Everything needs to be recertified! (a prime example is the d21 which has not been tested in 10 years!), or S&T and TMT are clearly not performing their function...

Does anybody else remember the "red delay liner" problem? Yet another case where Gary got by with changes that were ignored by the testing orgs, but turned into a real problem.....

Gary, spend $20 and send S&T a new set of reloads for the D21 and get it tested. Heck, it's been 10 years!

I hope the RCS motors test out the same as the AT motors, in all cases, but then again we won't know unless they are tested!

May I pay your renewal fees for you Gary? Then I can have certified motors again :)