Dell put the pages up and the M90 starts @ $2k, but of course by the time I add it all up with options I would order, it comes to just over $4000.
No ship dates are noted yet.
Bo
Dell put the pages up and the M90 starts @ $2k, but of course by the time I add it all up with options I would order, it comes to just over $4000.
No ship dates are noted yet.
Bo
The side issue for me, a long term Mac user, is that my new Mac may be the best PC I've ever owned . I'm still looking at the landscape, letting things settle before I plunk down hard cash.
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There are Facts, Biased Tests, and then Politician's opinions with a world between them, and likewise I won't attempt to personally describe speeds of various laptops as "fastest", since that is so debatable.
What is coming to the forefront, though, is the ability finally to run both Mac OSX and Windows on a single machine.
It is about time.
Bo
But what graphics adapter does the Mac use? If it is not NVIDIA Quadro or ATI FireGL, then it is not certified to run any engineering OpenGL apps and therefore won't have the proper driver support.
Are they comparing the new Intel Macs against PCs with the same processor, or is it Core Duo vs Pentium M?
Even cooler will be the ability to run them at the same time. The latest generations of multi-core processors from Intel and AMD both support virtualization, which means they can pretend to be more than one computer at the same time. I don't know when this will be available to non-server hardware, but the idea of running SW by itself in XP, and everything else in a more stable and secure OS (almost anything but XP) on the same machine sounds pretty good.
The MacBookPro uses a high end ATI laptop card in 2 versions:
"ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 graphics processor, dual link DVI support,
128MB of GDDR3 on 1.83GHz configuration. (or 256MB GDDR3 on 2.0GHz configuration)". OpenGL hardware support has been on the Macs for a long time.I would suspect the Mac engineers are NOT going to miss a chance to run their favorite CAD applications by specifying a card which was not compatible.
My whole point was just convey that I may just be able to get one new laptop this year, rather than two, as both of them are now nearing 3 years old.
Bo
The Radeon line is a consumer level card and is not considered "high end" for workstation use and is therefore not recommended or supported by most of the 3D engineering apps (in fact it is not supported by ATI for use with those apps either). The ATI FireGL line on the other hand is, so it looks like Macs do not have the driver/hardware support for the engineering 3D OpenGL apps.
The Desktop Workstations will let users install whatever video card they desire, so that will work.
The question will be whether one of the plugin laptop video cards will be replaceable in the MacBooks or offered at some point?
We will see - Bo
It's not about the memory, it is about the higher end OpenGL features that are only "enabled" on the workstation class cards and supported by the driver, which in turn, are depended upon by the workstation applications. Things like Overlay Planes and multi-OpenGL window support among other things. You can typically "dumb-down" the application to run on the consumer cards were these features are absent, but performance and the user experience can suffer as a result, and frequent crashing can occur.
Still, it is encouraging, that a company is reacting this fast to changes in the market.
Bo
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