A friend of mine bid on the following milling machine and won the
auction. The auction wasn't set up as a reserve auction (though the
seller does state it has a reserve in the description). To me there
seems to be something funny going on. Here's the auction.
Anybody got any opinions (yeah I know better than to bait the rabble
but oh well).
Is the seller trying to get his 'reserve' price? If so, I
think he's out of luck. He failed to set a proper reserve,
and he's bound by the terms of the auction.
If the guy meant to set a reserve of $1875 and just forgot,
and if your buddy is a nice guy, he could just let it go and
let the seller relist it. But I'd look for the proper
procedure for that, to guard against the selling dinging
your friend as a NPB.
Its called non performance, report it to ebay.
From ebays policy page:
What buyers can do if they feel a seller has violated the Seller
If a seller has refused to complete a sale, and payment has not been sent or
payment has been refunded, report the seller. Make sure to include a copy of
the email documenting the seller's refusal to complete the sale with the
full message text and complete email headers when making your report.
Here is the link to report the seller:
ISTR being high bidder on a Carrol dividing head many years ago from someone
that had intended to set a reserve but forgot. The closing price was less
than the intended reserve price but the seller refused my offer to pay the
reserve and shipped for the closing price. I believe that his name was Jon
too - sound familiar?
Seller is also avoiding ebay charges by not having a reserve properly set up
and insisting on its existence. Since he had a week to withdraw the auction
and did not take the opportunity, the auction stands. Might need a bailiff to
enforce the sale though :-(
E-bay has changed the way stuff is sold...
I use a program that uploads my items for sell...
I was helping a friend at his home to sell his first item...
The selling screen had no place to chose the reserve price anywhere...
I told him to set the starting price at the lowest price that he would
let it go for...
There was no place anywhere to set the reserve .....
That's the way of it.
Here's his first response.
"I see that the winning bid was $590.01. You probably read that my
was $1875. I would be willing to come down a little from $1875, But
machine is practically new."
My friend responded back.
"Why didn't you use the reserve price feature?
If you don't want to sell it at what I bid then you will have to fix
ebay so I don't get a negative feedback and it doesn't show me still
you. $ 700.00 was my max bid. I don't want to get into an argument
Your friend is unlikely to get his way, but he should tell the seller
that the ended auction is a valid contract, enforceable in courts, and
that the seller should perform. Besides, the seller is an idiot if he
wanted to sell that thing for his states reserve. A neg, and reporting
him to ebay, is certainly a must here.
Once I did get my way on an ended auction like this, and once I did
not. The case of a miller maxtron welder, ended for $510, did not
work, and the case of a new in box allen bradley starter, for $0.99,
did work. The maxtron guy got a big fat neg and a report to ebay.
Ok, sounds like your friend is on top of this. I didn't
think that the seller might be pulling this to avoid full
fees as he would have faced had he enabled a proper reserve.
Guess I'm too honest to foresee shenanigans like that....
Hope it goes well for him.
Ignoramus16741 wrote in
From my experience thats not likely to happen as Ebay themselves refuse to
provide further info or support the buyer, instead appear to supportthe non
performing seller instead.
I had much the same happen. Buyer wanted more cash, I refused and told them
to abide by the auction rules and the auction closed normally without
reserve. No further response. Contacting Ebay was a joke as they send you
around and around. Thier eventual response was a mail teling me how *I* can
tell the Seller how *they* can cancel the auction with my approval and so
the seller can recover his fees. When I responded that I didn't want to
cancel the auction and why would/should I help the seller when they are at
fault Ebay reponded that if I didn't I could get a non paying bidder report
(NPB). When I acarefully laid out the problem and indicated that I wanted
to persue it in law EBay reponded saying that they would deal with the
Seller, that I could not now get a NPB report and that I had no case to
persue unless Ebay provided further and complete information, which they
would not do as the auction was 'reasonable and completed in unusual
circumstances'. When i pursued that the auction disappeeared and the agebts
could no longer find the transaction...
Following day I got a NPB. Took six weeks to get it removed...
What happened, did they ask for a loading fee, or what?
> No further response. Contacting Ebay was a joke as they send you
> around and around. Thier eventual response was a mail teling me how *I* can
> tell the Seller how *they* can cancel the auction with my approval and so
> the seller can recover his fees. When I responded that I didn't want to
> cancel the auction and why would/should I help the seller when they are at
> fault Ebay reponded that if I didn't I could get a non paying bidder report
> (NPB). When I acarefully laid out the problem and indicated that I wanted
> to persue it in law EBay reponded saying that they would deal with the
> Seller, that I could not now get a NPB report and that I had no case to
> persue unless Ebay provided further and complete information, which they
> would not do as the auction was 'reasonable and completed in unusual
> circumstances'. When i pursued that the auction disappeeared and the agebts
> could no longer find the transaction...
> Following day I got a NPB. Took six weeks to get it removed...
Ignoramus16741 wrote in
Nope. Auction was for a vehicle. I drove down to see it and check it over.
A few problems but ok for what I wanted. Auction closed normally at a
reasonable price without reserve. Seller demanded about 2k more than
closing 'cos he claimed that was what he owed. Wouldn't sell at the price.
Ebay only corresponded regarding helping the seller avoid fees and if I
didn't comply I'd get a non paying bidder response.
Then maybe he should not have posted the listing?
That seller deserves a full featured neg and a seller non-performance
report. Certainly the buyer should not cooperate in helping the seller