Adcock & Shipley 2ES looking for a (new) home

Forgot to mention that it has a swivelling table.

Peter

-- Peter A Forbes Prepair Ltd, Luton, UK snipped-for-privacy@easynet.co.uk

Peter, Any chance of putting the pictures on a web site?

John

Just got home at midnight, sorry I couldn't do anything earlier!

Yes, but I only have the ones taken when we collected it for now, I'll get some better pics if anyone wants more detail.

Peter

God what an ugly machine. Three bob and not a penny more.

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John Stevenson Nottingham, England.

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It is innit. Machinery equivalent of Quasimodo.

Regards, Tony

I'm sure its mother loved it... :-))

Peter

May be ugly, but a very capable machine for a giveaway price. I regret having disposed of my Richmond universal (ok I needed the floor space) which had a similar swiveling table - very useful at times.

BTW Peter, is there a 22mm deadlock holder among your surfeit of ISO

30 holders?

AWEM

Is that Dedlock 200? If so, I've been looking for one for years. Did they actually make them in 30 taper? I've not been able to establish whether they did.

Cheers Tim

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Not sure Tim, I get confused over the nomenclature (ok I get confused over all sorts or things!) - but basically a 22mm short spigot to centre the cutter, and a pair of pegs to drive it, and a central bolt to hold it on - maybe it's called a shell mill holder ?

AWEM

They did a sort of 'mini-dedlock' which was a 30Int fitting, and I do have one (see posts re tooling a few weeks ago) but the 200 and 300 were, I think, only available in 40Int upwards. I have the full 1976 Clarkson catalogue at home so can confirm that later tonight.

I also recently bought a Dedlock 101, the like of which is not in the catalogue and must be a more recent design. There is lastly an NC Dedlock with fine cutter height adjustment built into the chuck. I'd like to see some instruction for use on this one, as it has three grub screws around the periphery of the body and not the two clamping/locking large headed cap screws of the standard Dedlock (that spelling is correct BTW)

Peter

-- Peter A Forbes Prepair Ltd, Luton, UK snipped-for-privacy@easynet.co.uk

There is one, see my other post, it also has a cutter with it. I'll check details tonight.

Peter

-- Peter A Forbes Prepair Ltd, Luton, UK snipped-for-privacy@easynet.co.uk

That sounds more like it.

The dedlock holder has a locating spigot, usually without driving pegs, and a threed onto which the cutter screws (the cutter has an internal thread). There's then a mechanism (2 or 3 different designs over time) to tgihten/loosen the thread. That's probably as clear as mud. Dedlock 150 is the common size in 30 int, also available in 40 I believe, 200 is perhaps the most common for 40 int & there were bigger sizes. I've got stacks of 200 size cutters, would like to be able to use some on my 30 taper mill. Some are obviously way too big, others would be fine on a 30 taper.

I *might* have a spare 22mm shell arbor if Peter hasn't got one. I certainly have some smaller ones surplus to requirements.

Cheers Tim

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The small Dedlock has a threaded ring with slots on to lock the cutter to the holder, there aren't any Allen screws at all IIRC.

It does look like a shell mill holder, but it has the thread for the cutter. So the threaded bit goes on first, then the cutter and you tighten the ring against the tool as far as I can see.

Peter

-- Peter A Forbes Prepair Ltd, Luton, UK snipped-for-privacy@easynet.co.uk

That may be an older design, I have a 200 size holder which sounds a bit like that, though it has a ring which locks *behind* the cutter. I've seen some others which are different again, IIRC they do have keys to engage in slots in the cutter. My dedlock 150 holder is just like most of the bigger ones, with two allen screws, one for locking & the other for unlocking.

Cheers Tim

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I have also a 150 and a 200, plus this 101 which I have yet to figure out.

Peter

-- Peter A Forbes Prepair Ltd, Luton, UK snipped-for-privacy@easynet.co.uk

I've just had a look at my 'older model' 200 size holder. This has a similar mechanism to the later ones except that more of it is external. There's a chunky ring with slots for a c-spanner to tighten it against the cutter - this is on a separate, multi-start thread from the cutter - & then a socket head screw at a tangent to release it. Much clumsier to use than the later models.

Cheers Tim

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Miniature Dedlock Chuck

Available in Size A and Size B Size A is for 1" to 1-3/8" Cutters Size B is for 1-1/2" to 2" Cutters All available in 2/3/4MT, 30Int & 40Int Bridgeport R8 This has a C spanner for tightening/undoing the cutter locking ring.

Dedlock 150 Chuck

Capacity 1-1/2" to 3" Available in 3/4MT 30Int 1-3/8" N.S.

40Int Bridgeport R8 4MT Deckel (no tapping in the end) 40Int Deckel (no tapping in the end)

Dedlock 200 Chuck

Capacity 2" to 6" Available in 4/5/6MT 5MT (DIN 1806/2207)

40Int Deckel FP2 No tapping 50Int Arborloc 40Int 50Int

Dedlock 300 Chuck

Capacity not listed Available in 50Int only

In addition to that little lot, nearly all were available with at least 2 or 3 different end tappings, the dedlock 300 for example was available with 1" Whitworth, M24 or 1" NC.

The Hydro-Clarkson website still lists some spares IIRC.

Peter

Where does the 22mm come from? If it is the cutter thread then no, as this one is only 3/4".

Peter

I won't look any longer for one in 30 Int, then

Cheers Tim

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