Was that the fuss where it turned out that they had some paperwork from
their competitors such that they knew things they "shouldn't have known"
about what they were going to bid and tried to offer a cheaper deal...
That always struck me as weird that such scandal was made of it: as if
the gov't didn't care about getting a good price on rockets anywhere
near as much as it cared about enforcing the arbitrary protocols of the
aerospace corporate welfare game!
As Ray would say, "care to back that claim with some facts"?
("TRA said so" doesn't count.)
You say that like you think it's a _bad_ thing. (To start with,
it's a bloody ambiguous accusation, considering that ATF regulation
itself is "not complying with ATF regulations".)
And why are you defending _their_ side? This suggests that your
thought processes are infected with notions that go something
like "they're from the government: that implies they're the
How childishly naive. Anyone from the government deserves
_extra_ suspicion, not some sort of automatic presumption
of virtue. _Especially_ in These Perilous Times [tm], with
the freaking Feds acting like the 9/11 incident meant they
got to just take _back_ all the respect they spent years
squandering on the Cold War, the War on Vietnam, the War
on Drugs, etc...
Yeah sure that's right Jerry. Why don't you explain it?
So far we know you've underestimated DOT, TRA and your biz partners we
all see how well that worked. Who will be the next one to take you to
school? Me or maybe ATF?
BTW, have any Feds contacted you yet this month?
On Thu, 12 May 2005 17:35:51 -0400, "W. E. Fred Wallace"
Since you want to negotiate, what is your position?
I'm a consultant.
You said you were the manager.
I was the manager. Now I'm a consultant. A consultant is like a
How many people work here?
Less that two.
Are you one of them?
Well that depends.
I think I'll steal this for my random .sig file...
Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD"
>>> To reply, remove the TRABoD! <<<
Kaplow Klips & Baffle: http://nira-rocketry.org/LeadingEdge/Phantom4000.pdf
www.encompasserve.org/~kaplow_r/ www.nira-rocketry.org www.nar.org
"I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed.
The U.S. government will lead the American people in and the
West in general into an unbearable hell and a choking life."
I've had good success with RTF kits. Now that I know how bad the
shock cords are, I always cut them and replace with a longer and
stronger cord. They work fine, even with the Estes paper-fold type
mount. I've *never* had a problem with motor retention with an RTF
kit, so I don't see that as being a problem at ALL...
well, I can see some mixed comments here, so I'll add mine.
I first saw fun rockets at a craft store, and picked two up. while I had
apprehensions about them being stryrofoam, they was cheap.
I later bought one of the assortment kits off of ebay, and ended up giving
them out as prizes at our end-of-year club party.
while not the best rockets out there. the prices I got them for were good.
hope you can get something for them Doug, and are able to pool enough
resources to start going again. (I have the auctions on my watch list, and
still may bid)
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