Ask anybody who actually handled a nuke.
(Genie AIR-2A on an F-106)
We lived and died by DEFCON levels.
If the average American knew just HOW many times our airspace was
threatened by nuke-capable bombers, they would have crapped in their
For ADCOM, it was all in a day's work.
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My dad was in the Air Force in France during the Berlin Crisis (1962) and he
told me they flew sorties almost daily DEEP into Russia. Usually in response
to them flying a group of bombers towards the U.S. It was a game of Air
It was toward the end of his career and by that time he wasn't flying
anything. He was mainly in charge of the flight line at Chaumont Air Force
Base. It's my understanding they had F-80's & F86's, B-47's, B-52's and I'm
not sure what else. There were also other bases, in other countries that the
U.S. flew all kinds of aircraft from, into Russia. The U.S. didn't fly from
just one base or country and it wasn't just Air Force. The Navy flew them
I would have listed the B-58 but I'm not totally sure they were statoned
there and my dad isn't here now to ask. The Hustler was stationed on the
west coast to pose a quick response threat to a Soviet attack.
None taken but I remember when and why well, just not quite sure about the
air craft or number of other units involved.
I believe that's totally accurate.
Correct again, one such unit was the 117th ANG recon wing from right here in
Birmingham. The 117th is now arefueling wing using KC-135's. There were
several other units there as well but I do not remember which ones or what
they flew, except it was bombers. My dad and 1 uncle completed their
commitments to the regular Air Force during the Berlin Crisis at that base.
They were quite proud that they could scramble all of their planes, whatever
they were and have them in the air in less than 3 minutes. Something like
over 100. Don't know how many runways they used to do that but it would have
to be impressive, even today.
>It seems unlikely that the US would risk
I would tend to agree with that logic now but what about back then? Could
have been simply conventional bombers or perhaps the French weren't aware of
the weapons being used? Now that you mention it, I wonder what the U.S.
allowed at that time, of other nations to inspect on U.S. base, their
country or not. Since I don't remember him saying a specific mileage, I do
not know the real distance they penetrated, only that they did indeed go
into Russia. Deep into Russia was his term.
I think it was a little confusing to call the system of highway signs
announcing missing children "Amber Alerts"...
Lifted from CodeAmber.Org
The AMBER Plan was created in 1996 as a powerful legacy to 9-year-old Amber
Hagerman, a bright little girl who was kidnapped and brutally murdered while
riding her bicycle in Arlington, Texas. The tragedy shocked and outraged the
entire community. Residents contacted radio stations in the Dallas area and
suggested they broadcast special "alerts" over the airwaves so that they
could help prevent such incidents in the future.
It was named after a missing girl named "Amber", in CA, IIRC.. It existed
In AZ, we also have "Megan's law", named after a early teen girl that was
hit (and killed) by a stray bullet that someone fired into the air and
killed her in her own back yard. Good thing her name wasn't "Rose", or it
would really confuse folks like you!
Dave, I know you're clueless as you stand up for Skippy.. But now I know
how clueless you really are.. It's sad...
I can't comment on Megan's law; I don't know
the details. But the Amber alert system is
simply the utilization of technology readily
at our disposal. If a kidnapping crime is
reported, it is immediately broadcast over
the radio (et al) much like weather warnings.
We've had instances here in Texas where folks
were able to spot the perp's car and call it
in on their cell phones. I think it's an
(BTW, Woody, to clear things up, it originated
Ya.. I did look it up after I posted. It's Texas..
There's expanding Amber Alerts here so that individuals can get email/cell
phone calls. From what I hear on the news, it's somehow related to the
location it occurred, and where cell phone users are (based on what "cell"
you're in). That way they can contact cell phone folks (that sign up) right
in the area first and expand outward as time goes by
In CA we have large freeway signs that are message boards (see movie "L.A.
post the Amber Alerts there and have recovered many kids when other motorists
-Fred Shecter NAR 20117
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