I find this deeply disturbing....
Jim Rutkowski Executive Chef - TrailerTrashAerospace
I find this deeply disturbing....
Jim Rutkowski Executive Chef - TrailerTrashAerospace
I find it really scary. We are losing more and more of our basic rights under the old Constutition. Bush and Ashcroft seen to be trying to make a police state.
Karl Perry QUARK, Cincinnati, OH
Good Morning, Communist America!
Absolutely scary... but then, we Canadians just retired a Prime Minister who thought that pepper-spray was something you put on the dinner-table... ;-)
Same thing happened under Clinton also when some protested his Gun Control agenda and Her Health Care plans etc. It is not just Bush or republicans or democrats.
- Dale
According to the article, the FBI reprtedly believes that "dissident speech and association should be prevented because they were incipient steps toward the possible ultimate commission of act which might be criminal" ...
Sheesh! How can these folks talk like that with a straight face and still call themselves "Americans"?
-dave w
Hey, don't laugh. Depending on the brand, it can be pretty good.
Zooty
( Yes, I've spiced up food with pepper spray. No, it was not the 40 lbs of meatloaf I cooked up for the men's shelter. In case anyone needs to know, do not attempt to mix up all 40 lbs. at once. Trust me on this, folks! Especially if you're mixing by hand.... )
It's like saying you have to forbid people from having kids because it is the first step in becoming a child abuser. It's amazing their reasoning. You have to criminalize people's behavior before they possibly become criminals. What next? They ban drinking because possibly somebody will drive drunk?
Paul
Care to back that one up, Sparky? Plenty protested each and nobody ever was imprisoned. If nobody had protested Hillary then we'd all be suffering with having health insurance. Now if nobody protested Ashcroft ...
Paul
careful, this may not be a "free speech zone" :(
- iz (w> I find this deeply disturbing....
Have made.
I have been saying so for a long time.
Aren't open-container laws essentially examples of this?
Doug
No, that just forces you to finish the bottle(s) before driving home. :(
Actually, that part is starting to lose significance, too... Society in general is becoming rather timid in its' actions.
The crux of the problem is the 'closed system' we live in. History shows that the most democratic societies are the wealthy ones - make the populace poorer, and you get dictatorships. In the 15th Century, the system was widened by the 'discovery' of the Americas. But since we can't open up the system anymore without developing extraterrestrial resources... and we're too timid to do that... we'll eventually wind up killing ourselves off.
Not a pretty picture, and I'll refrain from going further OT here. :-)
We as a culture ignore history and have no feedback and control loops installed, save the criminal justice system.
Jerry
Seig Heil!
Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!
Mercury* makes a mixer for batches that size...
Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!
We need a secind bill of rights. AMong them is the law:
"No law shall prohibit any item or activity because of posilbe illegal uses."
Or something like that.
Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!
Ah, but you forget that Gray Davis was recently black balled.
(Not that Groppenfurer is a stabilizing feedback...) ;)
Alan
I Like this part;
"Attempts to suppress protesters become more disturbing in light of the Homeland Security Department's recommendation that local police departments view critics of the war on terrorism as potential terrorists. In a May terrorist advisory, the Homeland Security Department warned local law enforcement agencies to keep an eye on anyone who "expressed dislike of attitudes and decisions of the U.S. government." If police vigorously followed this advice, millions of Americans could be added to the official lists of suspected terrorists."
Crap... did I just add myself to that list?
HDS
Doesn't this example of implementation make the whole thing unconstitutional on its face?
Jerry
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