OT: Anti Virus evaluation

That's our corporate standard and has been for years. I exclude the SolidWorks extensions from real-time scanning since they don't carry viruses . . . yet.

Steve O

That's the one that Greg Jankowski identified as "evil" or something to that nature, I think, in the CAD admin boot camp.

I use bit defender, which so far has been flexible and effective.

Bit Defender Pro (as top rated on a PC Mag tested rating) has been good.

However, I note that I can not trust Windows on the Internet, hence I am writing on my Mac Book Pro. Now Flower Pot and a few others will proceed to hammer me, and in a preemptory defense I offer from today from

"NetworkWorld is reporting that new code released on Sunday could allow a fully patched Windows XP PC's personal firewall to be disabled via a malicious data packet. The exploit depends on the use of Microsoft's Internet Connection Service."

"From the article: "The attacker could send a malicious data packet to another PC using ICS that would cause the service to terminate. Because this service is connected to the Windows firewall, this packet would also cause the firewall to stop working, said Tyler Reguly, a research engineer at nCircle Network Security Inc.""

Good Luck - Bo

snipped-for-privacy@veriz> That's the one that Greg Jankowski identified as "evil" or something to

Let me just get this straight... You're the fellow who said regarding my dose of reality post about patents that you "refuse to see doom everywhere"? Was that you? What is this other than doom for all Windows users? For all the claimed ubiquity, I don't know a single person who has had this sort of breach.

The sky is not falling.

Except maybe in your world.

Daisy.

Not doom. Reality. Rationality.

Take the road with least hours.

Do what works, and has least potential risks.

Live life longer with less stress.

Bo

FlowerPot wrote:

Was Greg talking about the "home" standalone version of Norton or the "Enterprise" version meant for workstations and servers? Is there a difference?

snipped-for-privacy@veriz> That's the one that Greg Jankowski identified as "evil" or something to

It's been my experience that Norton IS a virus.

Muggs

I don't know what level he was talking about. I do remember him saying that SolidWorks Corp had approached Symantec to try to work with them on some issues, and the outcome was not what they hoped for. Norton was the one he singled out as being the cause of a lot of problems. He even suggested that you don't really need to turn off your AV while installing SolidWorks unless you are running Norton. Did anyone hear that other than me? This was at the CAD Manager's Bootcamp I think on Sunday of SolidWorks World 2006. If it gets out that AV really doesn't cause installation problems, this could cause a crisis for reseller tech support only equalled by the day when SolidWorks doesn't require a video card to run. What would they blame things on then?

Anyway, in my little operation here, I am sometimes forgetful about turning off my Bit Defender if I install software or an SP, and I don't have any persistent crash problems or weird behavior caused by a bad installation. I just use Bit Defender Standard, because it was all I felt I needed.

You might just ask Greg. I'll be will> Was Greg talking about the "home" standalone version of Norton or the

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Muggs,

I would agree regarding the Norton you and I probably know; that is the one you can pick up at Best Buy, Circuit City or Zip Zoom Fly. There is apparently another version for servers and enterprise operations and that is the one I am trying to find out about. If you didn't pay $1,500

• dollars for your Norton you probably aren't talking about the one I am interested in. Why Norton would make one product actually work and another not is a question I don't have an answer for.

I did run across an article saying Norton did a complete rewrite for

2007. They have so many packages to choose from it is daunting to even decide where to start.

When looking at antivirus software its compatibility with SW is a major concern. So is its ability to catch virii and other baddies. You won't see a whole lot of reviews where any AV product is tested against much more than some macro virus in an excel spreadsheet.

TOP

They have good comparisons and there are a lot of other comparisons, and numerous ones give Bit Defender Pro very high marks, right up there with the best of them.

Bo

T> Muggs,

We use Symantec Antivirus 10.0 We switched from McAfee VirusScan Enterprise a few months ago, and I feel that I've had more lock-ups and CTD's since then. However, I've also changed SWX service packs too, so it's hard to know for sure.

John H

Thanks. Big help.

I have used AntiVir with SW. It doesn't seem to mess things up even when left running during installs/updates.

He sure did say that only a little more colorfully. I remember the chuckle I had because of the attitude of Symantic Corp., kind of reminds me of the OS2 guys at IBM, where are they now anyhow?

ambush

I also see that glazed look in people's eyes that says they cannot imagine why anyone wouldn't use it.

One point people make is that Symantec has such a large user base that you can expect more reports of problems. I guess if software had more randomness in it like a car that would be a valid statement. But software is by nature the same everywhere so one problem report applies to every instance of that software. That is why we don't have to vote on whether SW has a particular bug. If one person finds it and it can be repeated it is indisputably there. That being said, we just don't see a whole lot of reports about the other AV vendors. The only reason we know so many people use Norton is that it's buggy nature makes it more apparent.