chainsaw-in-a-can

Thinkin' about satellite TV at the cabin. Checked azimuths by running out from shore with GPS on. (My Corps of Engrs lensatic compass is in the kitchen drawer back home). I think I have some shots thru the tree canopy.

Zenith angle is about 30 above horizon in both cases. My options are a bit limited here; I have a couple of shots at the required azimuth angles but I may have to do or have done some tree-trimming. I'm no longer about to climb a tree with a chainsaw in tow but there's one offending limb I think we could drop easily enough with our chainsaw-in-a-can. That's the push-pull manual job with rings on either end, fits in a flat can that might have been made for Kiwi or Coopenhagen. We found it at REI many years ago. It's meant for cutting firewood for backpackers.

The procedure: throw or slingshot a rock or weight over lofty limb, with flexible braided fishline attached. I like dacron. When ya get that right, use line-over-lofty-limb to haul up the toothy chain attached to more substantial lines. Then two operators cooperatively play see-saw with the ropes. A fair amount of profanity accompanies initial attempts but a bit of practice with an able partner smooths that out soon enough. A key initial trick is to get and keep the toothy chain flat-side vertical to get a cut started. Obviously necessary but there's a rope-flicking trick to getting it done when said toothy chain is 40 feet aloft. Fly-casting experience doesn't hurt a bit. Mar and I are pretty good at this. It is flat amazing how fast that sucker cuts once ya get a cut started and a rhythm going. It's thinner than even a Stihl chainsaw chain, it's sharp, and it somehow cuts double-action.

The offending limb would drop into the lake, no prob there. We'd winch it ashore for bucking and conversion to firewood. It would definitely be neighborly to miss Zip's dock in the process... Meanwhile, fishin' is dozen-per-hour good. Bass, not walleyes, Karl. Are we having fun yet, or whut?

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Don Foreman
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Walleyes NEVER bite that fast. I've never targeted bass. How do you get them?

Karl

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Karl Townsend

On Sun, 31 May 2009 00:41:00 -0500, the infamous Don Foreman scrawled the following:

As I just re-learned in the Master Gardener course a couple months ago, any object within the felling range of a tree is known as a "target". If you don't have a clear view for sat reception, you're living in a real target zone.

Around here, most trees can come down free if someone wants the wood. They'll often pay you for the priviledge, too.

Those are good little units.

Ah reckon so.

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Reply to
Larry Jaques

C4 is good, but they are always out!

Steve

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SteveB

Oh, that would be a good " chainsaw-in-a-can"! Primacord would be even better: put a wrap around the limb/tree & poof, it's cut. What does it take to get that stuff, anyhow? A very specialized & rare license, probably.

Bob

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Bob Engelhardt

Is that the poor mans version of one of these?

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"High Limb Rope Chain Saw"

I remember those ring jobbers in old catalogs. Haven't seen one recently though, but I don't receive catalogs like that anymore either...

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Leon Fisk

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If he got it at REI, for sure it's not a "poor mans version" .

I looked at the HF Users Manual. The part I liked best was this:

"Cutting the bottom of the branch first will prevent the limb from peeling excess amounts of bark from the tree when the limb falls."

That would be a good trick (cutting the bottom of a branch first). I'd like to see that demonstrated.

Bob

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Bob Engelhardt

I have a couple of those saws. They will easily take out a 6" branch 25' up in the air.

They used to be advertised in 'Popular Mechanics' and similar. I used to love the picture showing a guy with his arms straight out to the sides, one handle in each hand. NOT! OK, just maybe if he was practicing for the olympic rings or something.

I also have one of the 30" long cord with the rings on the ends. Rides around in the 'emergency pac' that one person in our hiking group has to carry.

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RoyJ

Talking to a dish installer might reveal some other options. A friend's installer put a small dish (Dish Network) at the top of a power pole on the other side of his driveway, so you might have other options.. I've seen them mounted just about anywhere imaginable.

There is a fairly new power tool that can cut low limbs. It looks more like a weed trimmer, with a chain bar at the end (maybe 12").

There are also chain disks for angle grinders, made with a ring of chainsaw chain secured around the circumference of a steel disk. I think these are meant for rough planing wood, not specifically for cutting through wood.

Probably no reason a HGLY handy guy like you couldn't make a lightweight extension accessory for a reciprocating saw, for small limbs (tree limbs) within reach of a volunteer on a ladder.

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Wild_Bill

That is only revealed in my boat, if then.

Reply to
Don Foreman

No. It's similar, but it's better and costs more -- but not much more.

Not being coy, I'm on dialup here nuff said.

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Don Foreman

Yes, guys that do this for a living may have tricks and schemes I've not thought of. There are issues to consider, though, and I don't want a quickaminnit half-assed job that works until the truck is out of sight and then is my maintenance problem.

Example: stick dish on tree. Tree grows, bonk. Example: stick dish on planted 4x4 post (like a mailbox) near shore with clear shot to southern sky. Too near shore,winter ice will eventually shear that post like a toothpick.

There is a definite shortage of 30' ladders and volunteers in these parts.

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Don Foreman

Well, then shoot for the median. Find a good spot for the dish, then plant your own bulletproof creosote phone pole to mount it on.

Get a local Communications or Utilities contractor with a Line Truck to drill a hole with their augur and plant the pole, place augur-in anchors and guy it from three or four sides to the top so it can't sway (much), and place steel pole steps.

They have access to all that specialized hardware - and gaffing your way up and down a lone clearance pole that isn't really in deep enough, and isn't really big enough, and isn't guyed and is swaying all over the place is NOT fun - DAMHIKT.

Place a standard buttplate ground and a ground riser wire up the side to connect to the antenna, in case Zeus decides to try using your pole for target practice. But I'd tap into that ground riser and place a ring of driven ground rods around the base of the pole, to get the resistance down.

The bottom steps can't be permanent, in case the local Munchkins get the urge to climb the pole and take a swan dive to the pavement. So the bottom four to six steps are special square-headed nails on backing plates, and you use socketed removable pole steps.

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Bruce L. Bergman

They're for woodcarving

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kfvorwerk

Don, can you use some of your artillery pieces, shoot it off? - its only 30 feet,,, Andrew VK3BFA.

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VK3BFA

The last time I saw one of the ring jobbers was in a Herter's catalog (I think, it was a long time ago). Had a picture with it hooked into notches cut into a bent piece of sapling, an improvised bow saw.

If you have a lot of stuff like that to do (limbs overhead), Poulan makes a Pole pruner. It is about the least expensive one I've seen in that line of equipment. See:

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I'd like to have one, but haven't been able to justify it just yet. I'm still healthy enough and the old armstrong method still works okay :)

Reply to
Leon Fisk

Does it look like this one?

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dial up friendly image only.

Wes

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Wes

And it's cool how that clever pivoted weight on one end of the chain puts the cutting side of the chain against the limb.

Just remember to wear safety goggles when using a high limb rope saw and thus avoid getting drifting sawdust under your eyelids. (DAMHIKT)

Jeff

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jeff_wisnia

Last time I did that was with senior son in the bow of the canoe, tossing a purple, artificial worm in a worm harness toward the shore. A stringer of live Largemouth Bass can make steering a 12' canoe somewhat interesting if they decide to go "thataway". My chum was not impressed when I sent the photo to him as champ who bragged about being the only fisherman to come back with two fish from that little puddle. Gerry :-)} London, Canada

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Gerald Miller

My Dad did that many years ago. We had a Spruce directly in front of the house that was developing a long lead shoot which Dad wanted to remove. One day when the buzz saw crew was eating lunch, someone suggested that he try to shoot it off. Three shots with the twelve gauge had little effect so he tried the .303 Savage, first shot and four feet of spindly spruce came tumbling down. That was around 60 years ago and the tree still looked great when I drove by two months ago. Gerry :-)} London, Canada

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Gerald Miller

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