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Come on people. Manure is what was used for fertilizer for the last

10000 years.

Bacteria are everywhere, anywhere, thousands per square inch of anything.

i

Nice story, Karl.

It reminds me of a joke I heard in 6th grade. An inmate at a nuthouse was leaning over the fence watching a farmer spreading something on his strawberries. Curious, the inmate asked the farmer what it was he was spreading. "Manure," came the reply.

"Huh," said the inmate. And you people think *we're* crazy. We put cream and sugar on ours."

da-da-BOOM....

(This must be an old joke to strawberry farmers.)

"Ignoramus29003" wrote in message

Yes, the survivors tolerated their local human-gut strains, and didn't travel like we do. Anyway, ancient diseases were caused by Bad Air (mal-aria) or demons flying into your mouth when you open it to sneeze. "God Bless You" exorcises them.

in 1850AD had worse water supply and sanitary infrastructure than Rome did in 185AD.

Livestock can carry different, dangerous varieties:

jsw

I always thought manure used for fertilizer was composted to get rid of bad bacteria.

The problem is that she thinks they are "cute" and won't allow harvesting...

Women. Can't live with 'em, can't shoot _them_, either. :^)

-- Stain and poly are their own punishment.

Who knows how the small-scale local farmer treated it?

jsw, who boils or at least carefully washes all fresh vegetables.

That's true and, broadly speaking, I agree that people over react to possibilities of bacterial contamination. BUT, there's lots of different bacteria, some of which are very serious. Like the very common and readily available Shigella, responsible for a form of dysentery that caused the deaths of 80,000 Union troops during the Civil War*. And transmitted by fecal-oral contact. So food contamination of manure is something to be wary of, even though animal manure does not contain Shigella.

Bob

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I wash and eat raw or wash and steam my veggies. I got a stainless rice cooker which has a stainless tub above the steamer section and all the steam passes the veggies on the way out the little steam vent. All vits and mins are saved in the rice, and the flavor is wonderful.

I saw an article in the WSJ the other day about bacteria which stated that there are between two and six pounds of dem critters on our bodies. Amazing, innit?

-- Stain and poly are their own punishment.

And to roses. Manure from horses is said to be the best for roses.

My puppies ate all of my strawberry plants leaving holes in the ground. Any recommendations?

During cheap strawberry season I freeze them on dry ice and they are almost like fresh months later.

Had trouble with coyotes removing deer repellant bags. So we mixed habanera Chile powder with the ground blood meal. They took off ONE bag, no more. Wish I had been there to see it.

Karl

Ole!

Yeah, that would have been funny to catch on videotape. Maybe next year?

-- Stain and poly are their own punishment.

People beg others to take it around here. Freecycle & Craigslist have frequent posts, "Bring your truck & shovels for all you can haul."

Not too many people seem to like elderberries. I haven't had a slice of elderberry pie since I was a kid, but I remember it tasting pretty good. My recollection is that it's a lot of work since the berries are so small.

RWL

Many years ago my boss had a problem with a neighbours dog getting in to garbage cans. He took leftover poridge, spoiled ground beef and an ounce of cayenne pepper, mixed it together and formed it into a large patty which he placed on top of the garbage. Sure enough at the usual time the dog opened the garbage can and chowed down on the most enticeing lump. Since this occurred in spring when the drainage ditches along the road were full, the next thing Jim saw of Mr.Dog was him imersed to his hind quarters in icy water. From then on the dog made a wide detour around Jim's yard.

Yeah it's a lot of work but the end result is worth it. I had a bunch of wild sources until the state decided to cut everything back 30 feet in that area !!!

Two points, Jimboss! ROTFL!

-- It is easier to fool people than it is to convince people that they have been fooled. --Mark Twain

If you haven't got a local manure factory, there is this stuff (which I saw at a local garden center):