Maximat V10/ Emco FB2 4-speed milling head

As I recall , the seminal work was by Dr.Thomas A.Harris and entitled, "Transactional Analysis"; subsequently popularised by Eric Byrne in "Games People Play". No doubt some webber will correct me on the details if I am wrong - it is some years since I studied (and qualified) in psychology.

Nevertheless it was to Harris that I referred, the Harris of "Transactional Analysis" when I mentioned "a Harrisian Transaction".

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  1. Thanks for your contributions on Nylon - perhaps you worry too much on the issue of the engagement of gears - the involute is tolerant of misalignment in the way that epicyclic and hypocyclic curves are not (in this latter, the pitch point has to be the exact transition between the two)

  1. As I recall, the thread from which you quote was one of light- hearted banter with each contributor vying with the previous contributor for pedanticity. ISTR that you referred to the middle syllable of "controversy". No suggestion of impoliteness there, OM.

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Wrong I'm afraid - can't have been much of a qualification -

Eric Berne "Transactional Analysis in Psychotherapy", 1961, and also "Games people play", 1964, not to mention several more titles that were the founding basis of TA.

Thomas A. Harris - "I'm O.K., you're O.K.", 1967, AKA "TA for dummies".

Like I said before, a Bernian transaction.

Regards, Tony

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The point being made, however, was that of playing an adult to rejoinder the rather silly and infantile jibes of someone playing the child, as indeed you play below and jibe below, even though you might pedantically be correct.

The principle of chastising you and others for childish behaviour remains, irrespective of the origins of the research. I remembered them as being descibed by Harris, in this I was correct, and therefore correctly referred to them as Harrisian.

I read Harris, and not Berne some years ago. Which did you read?

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What a technically interesting reply, taking things on from an initial Materials perspective.

I see you have had a reply from the OP, which totally ignores the Materials aspects you expanded on, seemingly concentrating on the geometric aspects ("...perhaps you worry too much on the issue of the engagement of gears..."). This may be due to his unfamiliarity of the crucial differences between plastics and metals for engineering purposes.

The OP mentioned having some nylon in his junk box, but not only is the grade and type unknown, but also whether it was extruded or moulded, for example - which can have a significant effect of the properties of the sample.

Nonetheless, it cannot be stressed too heavily that engineering solutions in plastics are not the same as the solutions found with metals, and the OP has shown no signs of comprehending this fundamental difference. Doubtless the majority are happy with the contribution you made.

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Adult response:

From the above, it seems to me that your memory, and knowledge of the difference between the ego states, would benefit from refreshment via a course of further study. Can I recommend reading a few of Berne's very excellent and enlightening books, followed by "TA Today" by Ian Stewart & Van Joines to get the more modern perspective?

Parental response:

You've got it wrong again! Don't you know anything? Stupid boy! (Hmmm...does this sound at all familiar to you, Mr Bean? If not, go and re-read a few of your past responses in this forum)

Child response:

He he he! You really think you behave like an adult in this forum? What a joke! Hahahahaha!

I generally prefer to read books written by the organ grinder, rather than his tame monkey. Your mileage may vary.

Regards, Tony

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I might even observe that Harris is to TA what CB is to amateur radio.

Regards, Tony

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One nine for a dead rat ?

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Sounds cheap to me ;-)

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Progress report...

When the split Tufnol gear was pulled off, it snapped tightly shut at the split, suggesting that gluing might be an option; however the Evostick wood glue (the white stuff that sets hard and impenetrenable) does not seem to have the same power as on wood, and, although I bored out the hole in the gear, it again split open at the same point.

So....a call to HPC gears, and a metal gear came by return.

So - turn down the splined shaft. Bore out the HPC gear to be a force fit. Part off the HPC boss. Damn - got a dig-in and it has marked some of the teeth.

Drill and ream for a taper pin, apply Loctite (Britland jointing compound) and wait overnight.

Will report later.

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Tufnol/wood...two entirely different materials. In general, when an adhesive specifies a material in its name it's a fair bet that it's not likely to be much cop on other materials.

Loctite is a Henkel brand, Henkel is a German company. Loctite was originally an American company.

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Oh no...not again....is there no limit to this person's ignorance?

http://68.72.74.108/history.htm "Loctite Corporation began in the Trinity College basement laboratory of Dr. Vernon Krieble of Hartford, Connecticut, in 1953. This entrepreneurial chemistry professor developed a cure inhibition system for a unique liquid bonding resin that hardened in the absence of air

-- an anaerobic sealant -- based on a conversation with his son, Robert, also a Ph.D. chemist."

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Progress report.....

Re-assembled the gear head (It came apart very smoothly and went back again equally so)

Try spinning the gears - uh-oh - runs for 3/4 turn then stops.

Upon inspection there's no clearance available to have even the smallest whisper protruding for the taper pin. Take it all apart, out with Dremel (or Chinese equivalent) and grind away.

Re-assemble, all nicely greased, and it seems smooth.

Final task is to adjust the gear selectors - small die-cast-ali arms. When I acquired the milling head, one of the selectors was already broken, so I filed up a replacement out of mild steel. Now, whether a result of the extreme cold making the diecasting fragile, but the other one snapped, diametrically across the hole for the shaft. So, before being able to report a successful repair of an obsolete Emco 4-speed head, another bit of filing up will be needed.

Perhaps I should have bought the Myford ML7 that was offered to me at the same time, because there's no shortage of spares for a 1948 Myford! However, a 1970 Emco, long since abandoned by its makers has resulted in running repairs to the 4-speed milling head so far.....

Right Hand Gear Selector Dogs holding Milling head to vertical shaft. Replacement 24-tooth gear, as detailed above and below. Left Hand Gear Selector (underway, as above)

And, by a previous owner, the gear selector casting for the Norton gear box had sheared and had been repaired (although it jumps out of gear, needing further attention)

Perhaps I should investigate becoming an expert in gear-cutting before something "gives" in the lathe itself? It certainly seems to be a truism that we spend more time making bits and pieces for our lathes than actually producing anything useful with them!

Cue Mrs.Nugatory.....

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On the 50Hz model, (but not the 60 Hz model, only 2 windings shown in the manual), the motor appears to be a fully-fledged star-connected 3-phase motor, normally run via a capacitor.

I have now obtained a second-hand single-phase to 3-phase converter to drive the milling head, and so the success of any repair affecting 2 of the 4 speeds has suddenly become immaterial, as I now have a wide range of speeds available.

Subjectively, it seems to be runn> Progress report.....

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