Meridiani Planum: 'Drenched'

Mar 02, 2004 30 Replies

Yeah, that was apparently this Levin fellow who appears to have found himself out in left field. He tried to steal their thunder (a petty self serving act IMHO). Any hype was due to him, not JPL, NASA, or the science team. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't hold the press conference early just because of the stuff this guy was spewing to any media outlet that would listen. On Monday AM there was a story at space.com in which the reporter suggested a big press conference "late next week". Later that morning the JPL web site announced a special press briefing on Wednesday. By the end of the day it was scheduled for Tuesday...

We have multiple instruments in orbit now that can detect water near the surface. Evidence of such has been found, but not at either of these sites. This guy stirred a lot of people up about liquid water at the surface and that he found life in his ambiguous Viking experiment. That's unfortunate.

One last thing: the news at this press briefing *was* exciting! Go find a basic textbook with a chapter on mars. It's all about questions. And we are in the process of answering those questions! Science doesn't get any more exciting than that!

But, the pictures we see don't necessarily mean mud. See:

formatting link

Balls. Seen one planet, you've seen em all. What's with this accretion theory?

Ok, let's test your theory. What makes Mars just like Neptune?

One example of real exciting science that comes to mind was the discovery of what appeared to be fossilized evidence of microbial life on a Mars meteorite. Now *that* was exciting science, not an announcement that merely confirmed something that most everyone already pretty much knew to be true.

el_encubierto

"Luis" wrote

However, the meteorite announcement had no basis in the long run. Not a very good tradeoff.

One vibe from the press conference... there was an air of "mission accomplished" about the whole thing--that this result (water on Meridiani, how much, how long, in what form, who knows?) is about as much as we can expect to get from Opportunity, & that future missions (sample return) will be needed to even answer the question of how long did the water persist. To that extent, there definitely was a political aspect to the press conference, i.e., "this result shows how we need to continue with the President's plan."

First sample return: 2014.

Joe

Is "The Mindless TV Media Culture" capable of engageing anyone about anything, much less Science?

Ralph Nesbitt

"Ron" skrev i en meddelelse news: snipped-for-privacy@posting.google.com...

formatting link
I'm caving in! I had a look at the facies described by Gerhard Einsele of the 'Mediterranean salinity crisis'. The very thin varves in the picture above can be described as seasonal changes in evaporites that settle through the watercolumn. The loose sediment on top has a heavy caliber and may belong to the costal facies passing the site through the regression. Some of the implications obviously is that it has been a very large sea. It seems odd that Mars has not been peneplaned or lack a structuring by the watererosion - did it regain relief? The lowest parts of Mars could perhaps contain more soluble salts - would it be visible from orbit? Score for Elifritz and Jonathan.

Carsten

I think they can, but it is simply not profitible for the general media to do so. However, the success of media outlets such as the cable channel Science TV is proof that there is a thirst for knowledge in the general population. Unfortunately, it is not being nutured enough to make a difference to the rest of the networks.

It's big and round like your napper, nut.

Wrong answer. The correct answer is that Mars is nothing like Neptune, dork. One is a rocky world and the other is a gas giant. Maybe you should throw out that 1940s vintage popular science book you cling to with glee and get an update.

Join the Discussion

Have something to add? Share your thoughts — no account required.

Didn't find your answer?

Ask the community — no account required