I was just curious, having just received my new Hypersonic Aviator FX7
(laptop) with the x2 4800+, so I'm comparing it against my Boxx with FX57.
Hypersonic Aviator FX7(Clevo laptop chassis)
AMD 64 X2 4800+ (dual core)
via mobo / chipset
nVidia Quadro FXGo 1400 PCIe
95 Gb 7200 RPM USATA
2 Gb RAM
AMD 64 FX57 (single core)
nForce4 SLi chipset
nVidia Quadro FX 3450 PCIe, SLi capable
74 Gb 10000 RPM SATA
3 Gb RAM
The RAM difference shouldn't be a factor, since none of the models made
the computers page out. The hdd speeds shouldn't be a factor either
since I wasn't comparing open or save speeds, and there was no paging.
The shipinabottle time for the Boxx was 18.7, Hypersonic 27.7 Single
runs were Boxx .30 and Hypersonic .59.
I thought this might have been due to the difference in graphics cards,
so I enabled Software OGL and tried it again, this time Boxx = 19.375,
Hypersonic = 30.1. That settled that. It's mostly processor.
So I opened a part with some swoops and ctrl Qed. 224 features, many
surface and fillet features. It was interesting to watch. The X2
processors sometimes pegged 100%, sometimes just 50%, and if you watched
the percentage indicator on the SW lower right status bar, the Boxx
seemed to be going faster, but the Hypersonic definitely finished first.
rebuild time: Hypersonic 670 seconds, Boxx 2171. Something strange up
with that. This was an old model, so updating was a factor, as well as a
couple of features erroring out. The big difference was a single surface
knit feature, which didn't error out.
Rendering, basically the one on the front page of my website, rendered
to screen. The Hypersonic screen is 1900x1200, the Boxx is 1600x1200.
Hypersonic was done in 7 minutes, Boxx took 8.
A part with several inserted parts, combines, delete faces, etc. 24
features. Hypersonic = 123 s, Boxx = 124 s. What is interesting is
that the feature order in the Feature Statistics was different. The
combine features took longer on the Boxx, and the Delete Face took
longer on the Hypersonic.
Another part with 312 features. Lots of draft and fillets. Hypersonic
= 165, Boxx = 164. Again, though, the Boxx takes longer on Combine
features (115s vs 125s), and made up for it on draft and fillet features.
Same part with verification turned on. Hypersonic = 453, Boxx = 424.
This time Hypersonic was much slower on combine (323s vs 274s). Hyper
sonic much faster on Move Face features, where I noticed it was pegging
both processors (66s vs 100s).
I don't have any big assemblies to compare. My guess is the dual core
would smoke the single with opening and rebuilding assemblies.
Verdict? The first verdict is that the ship in a bottle benchmark is
not very representative for the kind of modeling I do. In real world
modeling, the two machines were about even. That one anomalous rebuild
time with the knit surface worries me, but it really happened, so I
don't know what to say about it. Other than in the shipinbottle, the
dual core never lagged behind. If you put too much stock in the
shipinabottle, you'd go around thinking one machine was twice as fast as
the other, but that obviously isn't true.
There was a substantial price difference between the machines, the
Hypersonic laptop was ~$3300 and the Boxx tower was ~$4000. The FX57
was certainly a premium price item. I should also mention that there
was about an 8 month interval between the two purchases, which affects
the price on fairly recent cpus.
The FX57 is the fastest single core processor available. It doesn't
really compare with the FX60 which is dual core and clocked somewhat
slower. The FX60 seemed to be about 10% faster than the 4800+ on Toms
Hardware cpu benchmarks, but it was probably twice the price.
For the price and the performance, I would recommend the X2 4800.
Other nice things about this is that now you can get real workstation
processors in a portable format. Remember that this is a comparison
between a nicely equipped (not to say "top of the line") tower, and a
nicely equipped "laptop".
We should get our "Radeons and 15" monitors for CAD" buddy back here to
pass his judgement on all of this.
I at one point used an Intel version of the Clevo chassis built by Boxx,
looks from the outside exactly the same as my Hypersonic. It blew very
hot air on your left hand, and the fans ran constantly and were quite
loud. The difference with the more power efficient AMD chips is like
night and day. Very noticeable. This is the difference between a
laptop you can use and a laptop you can use to fry eggs, but can't sit near.
Anyway, lots of typing. Hope this sheds light for anyone looking at new
- posted 16 years ago