5 inch Makita about $135 at my LWS.
It's a little heavier that the 4 1/2 DeWalts that I've had, but nicer/easier
to handle. A large part of that is that it has a trigger lock and I don't
have to hold the paddle in place -- bad arthritis and other hand problems.
I know, the DeWalt has a trigger lock too, it works for about 4 times.
The Makita also has ball and needle bearings supporting the driven shaft -
opposed to ball and sleeve in the DeWalt.
Both work well but I reach for the Makita first.
"Grant Erwin" < snipped-for-privacy@NOSPAMkirkland.net> wrote in message
I had a realization on the last one I bought. I bought it on ebay for a
nice price, and it was like new. A Makita. When I got it, I realized
something I never knew before that. They come in different diameters. This
one was smaller than the others I have had, and fits my hand much better.
As for brands, I think it depends on how much you use it. If you don't use
it a lot, most anything will do. If it needs to last, or work hard, you
might want to go with one of the standards.
I like Makita. I got a Metabo a while back on a deal from a guy, and I know
they are spendy. Haven't even used it yet. For a lot of work, el cheapos
do just fine.
At times, I can find new looking tools at my local pawn shops. Almost
bought a Milwaukee Sawzall yesterday for $60, but the foot was messed up.
Other than that, it was very new looking. I bought my last 9.6 cordless
Makita drill almost brand new for $30 in a small town hock shop.
But from now on, fitting my hand is a big consideration.
FLEX without question.
I used to say that FLEX and Metabo were even, but since I have 5 FLEX
grinders at home and 3 Metabo grinders at work, my opinion of Metabo has
dropped a bit.
I have had to replace the brushes in all 3 Metabo grinders at least once
in a year.
While buying the latest set I realized I have NEVER had to change a set
of brushes in any of my FLEX grinders and I have had some for 12 years.
The Metabo brushes have a nice feature though.
They have a small spring imbedded in the brush.
When it wears down to a certain point, the spring goes "POP" and the
It prevents the brush from wearing down until it damages the armature.
I was talking about this excessive brush wear with a power tool repair
tech and he agreed that Metabos aren't what they were.
The best ones were the older square bodied grinders.
They were Rolls Royces.
My favorite FLEX grinders are
Makita grinders are pretty good as long as you choose the right ones.
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When Dewalt killed the old Wildcat 9" grinders they offed their last
The larger Milwaukee grinders are pretty solid
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I'd vote for Metabo, have had the last 5" one for 19 years and still on
the first set of brushes but I don't use it like you must. My first
Metabo I killed by letting it ingest too much dust from cutting cement
and the brushes wore down and took out the armature, that didn't have
the feature you mentioned. I learned the lesson of not using a good
grinder for that sort of thing and checking the brushes occasionally.
Other than that for DIY use I have never had a problem with a Bosch tool
yet either pro or home models.
Ernie Leimkuhler wrote:
Nick Mueller wrote:
If I ever succeed in ruining my 230mm Makita (what I *really* doubt), I'll
pick a big Fein too.
The 125 Fein EVO is absolutely great to handle. It is quite slim where you
grip it when working with one hand. Can't compare to any other I have
Has anyone tried the smaller cordless ones?
Have lithium batteries come far enough to make them useful for more
than a few minutes per hour? or are they more like occasional use
Admittedly i am a way lighter user than most people here but i'm
wondering if anyone has tried out the ones like the makita LXT or
I'm thinking that i can buy a LOT of extension cords for what the
batteries cost but since the thread is open i may as well add the
I have a mate uses a cordless angle grinder with a slitting disc for
feathering off (?) weld root runs so that he can get invisible
Feathering as I understand it: when doing a full-penetration root run
on a V-butt preparation, where you have to restart after pausing the
weld (eg. to change welding rods), you produce a shallow "chisel edge"
"entry ramp" to the continuing direction of the weld by getting a
slitting disc to spin just through the root separation / root gap of
the weld root yet to be welded, and draw the grinding disc back until
it grinds into the rounded end of the weld finish. Then when you
restart the welding process a little back from the leading edge of the
weld, you weld down the channel and your new weld has fully stabilised
to the profile of the previous weld by the time the feathering
finishes => invisible restart - only see a continuous weld.
A slitting disc is far too delicate for a shared grinder, and equally
its limited power requirement and short durations make it amenable to
being on a cordless tool.
Frankly one large reason for having a cordless is you have it in your
bag, use it quickly when needed and no-one else gets drawn into
deliberations about permission had it been known that the tool
My favorite in the little grinders is still the B&D/DeWalt. Really like
that paddle switch and the thing fits my hand. They don't last forever
but they last a long time.
My 9" is also a B&D, it's the Wildcat's mommy or grandma. Heavy old
girl, but lots o' power, wouldn't trade it for any new ones I've seen. I
see Ernie says the Wildcat has been discontinued.. bad choice on the
part of the manufacturer, in my opinion.
That bit of info was part of a funny conversation I overheard.
I often stop in to the Dewalt repair center on Airport Way in Seattle.
I go through the accessory bins for cheap hammer drill bits, screwdriver
bits, and grinding wheels.
I was in there rooting through the bins, and heard the conversation
between one of the repair techs and a customer who had brought in a
Makita 7" grinder for repair.
Dewalt repair will fix anybody's power tools.
The customer asked about getting a new grinder for heavy steel work, and
the tech said that Black&Decker / Dewalt had just discontinued the best
heavy duty grinder in the business (the Wildcat), and that all the other
Dewalt grinders were junk.
He recommended the heavy duty Milwaukee and Makita grinders with the all
Another point I should make is that one of the main reasons that I only
buy German grinders has to do with nerve damage in my hands from so many
years of grinding.
Cheap grinders have badly balanced armatures so they vibrate a lot.
The higher quality German and Swiss grinders have very well balanced
armatures so less vibration, and my fingers don't go numb.
As I stated in my last post, I just became aware that there was a
substantial difference in the diameter of the barrel on a grinder. The
smaller ones are infinitely easier for me to handle, and now you have my
interest piqued, I will get out that Metabo and play with it, as well as go
look at some Flex models. With the small amounts of grinding and finishing
I do, it would be worth the $$$ to buy a couple that are going to be in my
Ah, youth ........
Whatever is the cheapest I find works.
I now own 7, most of which were picked up in yard sales, etc, for less
than $10. They are all fitted with different disks, wheels, etc and
they all get a fair amount of use. Only one has failed. Even the
no-name chiwanese cheapies are as reliable as anything else.
"Big Bertha" is a Ryobi 180mm 1500Watt . It's variable speed, has
ample power and is good value for the money.
Of course, if your income depended upon having one by your hand 8
hours a day, you would want to get the "best", whatever that is.
I've had very good luck with them. I often have the flap sanders or
wire brushes on them, so it's handy to just pick one up instead of
changing discs on the machines.
I have 3 Makitas, one Ingersol Rand and 4 Harbor Freight grinders. I
haven't had any trouble with any of them, but like Ernie says, I think
the Harbor Freight ones vibrate more.
I have a friend that has only Harbor Freight and has only had one go
south on him. He saved it for parts in case another fails.
Gunner told me to avoid the blue ones, they last "about an hour". He says
the orange ones last a lot longer. Probably what I'd buy if I were 23 and
didn't give a shit about my wrists and didn't do steel fabrication for a
I'm going to look at the German ones. I *like* smoooooth .. :-)
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In the city i grew up in "white hands" was an extremely common
repetitive strain industrial injury
i'll buy a massager if i want vibration or move to the West Coast
not having feeling in your hands would take a good chunk out of
enjoying retirement life
27 and doesnt think you waste money buying tools to last
I always have three of them set up at a time. One with a disc, one with a
brush, and one with a flapper or disc. It makes it sooo much easier, and if
I could standardize them, it would make it easier just needing one set of
wrenches instead of sometimes the odd sized one.
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