Battery Charging Time 4.8v pack

Hi all,

I think this is slightly OT, but since you guys deal with battery packs all the time I thought I'll ask here.

I'm interested in building a 4.8v battery pack for a mp3 player of mine. I noticed a lot of RC stores sell 4.8v battery pack chargers. Most of these chargers only output 100ma @ 6V - I'll be using 4x 2000ma AA batteries. Does this mean that it'll take ~13.3 hours to charge my pack?

Are there faster chargers out there that can charge self-built 4.8v battery packs faster?

Also, does it matter if I get a NiMH or NiCad charger, or are RC trickle chargers compatible with both types of battery?

Thanks.

Reply to
Lucas Tam
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Yes, there are much quicker chargers available. Go to:

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They have quite a few available, IIRC. Good luck.

Ed Cregger

Reply to
Ed Cregger

No, they are not necessarily compatible. My understanding is that the way the two types peak is different. A charger designed only for NiCads will not detect when a NiMH is fully charged so it keeps charging past full. You can learn about batteries at Red Scholefield's site:

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C G

I did the same thing for an old cell phone.

2000/100=20 hours. Figure it will take a day.

Yes, you can probably get the charge time down to about an hour.

If you are quick charging, yes. I have a charger that handles both but you have to tell it what kind of battery is connected.

Trickle chargers are compatable with both types. You can charge it in ~10 hours using a 200ma trickle charger, but C/10 is the upper limit of what would constitute a "trickle charge".

Reply to
Steve Banks

If you really need to run that thing for a month off one charge, why not go all the way with a couple of LiPo cells?

You can get quick chargers and they have to match the type of cells you want to use. Check at those same RC Stores.

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Paul McIntosh

"Paul McIntosh" wrote in news:4256f4f1$0$94510$ snipped-for-privacy@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net:

I was thinking about LiPo... but are they dangerous? It seems that you have to be very careful charging them.

Also, LiPo's voltage seems to be quite high, the device I'm powering requires a 5V DC input, so I might have to a voltage regulator to lower the voltage - this may generate heat.

Is the "cutoff" voltage of a LiPo cell the voltage as which it runs out of power? When manufacturer measure the capcity of the battery do they calculate it upto the cut-off voltage?

Thanks : )

I was hoping to find a wall type charger so I could pack it with me... but it seems most hobby cell chargers are quite large, so I'm contemplating sticking with individual AA batteries : )

Reply to
Lucas Tam

| If you really need to run that thing for a month off one charge, why | not go all the way with a couple of LiPo cells?

I'm not sure LiPo is such a good idea.

1) two cells will put out 6.0 to 8.4 volts. If the device takes only 5-6 volts, you'll need a voltage regulator. (I wouldn't worry about the heat -- it can't use too much power.)

2) The mp3 player probably doesn't know to stop discharging at 6 volts. So he could happily run down the LiPo cells too far and ruin them.

3) There is the danger of incorrect charging. Fires and explosions are unlikely, but they do happen.

4) You won't be able to use a cheap charger with it -- it'll need some smarts. Failure to use the correct charger will ruin the cells at best, and burn everything down at worst.

| You can get quick chargers and they have to match the type of cells | you want to use. Check at those same RC Stores.

If 4 AA NiMH cells will physically fit (what kind of batteries does it take stock?) then I'd go with that. Especially if it's what it was designed to use.

As for a charger, I wouldn't bother with a peak charger if this is all you need it for. A 100 mA receiver pack R/C charger would work fine, and it would charge it fully in about 2000 mAh / 100 mA * 1.20 or about 24 hours. Just make two battery packs and charge one while you use the other.

Don't leave your battery packs on this charger 24/7 -- it wears the batteries out. Take them off the charger once charged. NiMH cells discharge at about 3%/day, so after a month or two they'll be dead if not charged.

If there's a R/C swap meet around where you live, I'll bet you could get a R/C charger for under $5 -- no need to pay big bucks for it.

You could also use almost any wal-wart transformer and an appropriate resistor, but that would require some math and measurements and such.

| > Also, does it matter if I get a NiMH or NiCad charger, or are RC trickle | > chargers compatible with both types of battery?

Yes, the slow chargers will work with both. But the extra capacity means that charging takes that much longer.

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Doug McLaren

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