Keeping an old engine-drive welder running
Reviewed Oct 8, 2026 by Site editor.
An old engine-drive welder, such as a Lincoln SA-200, a Ranger 8 or a Miller Big D4, is two machines in one: an engine and a welding generator. These seven discussions follow the job of owning one in order: judging what a used machine is worth, looking after an SA-200's Continental engine and exhaust, getting the idle control working, running power tools from it, and tracking down a machine that runs but gives no output.
They are community discussions, many of them well over a decade old, so prices quoted are of their time and the reasoning matters more than the numbers. Engine-drive welders produce dangerous voltages and run engines that make exhaust: follow the manufacturer's manual for connections, grounding and exhaust, and have any electrical work beyond the welder's own outlets done properly.
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1. What is a used SA-200 worth? visited done
Fair price for a SA-200?
An owner of two short-hood SA-200s asks what a fair price is for a business acquaintance who wants one. Replies from 2007 separate asking prices from selling prices and disagree over whether an oil and pipeline boom was pushing prices up everywhere or only in some areas. The figures are of their time; the asking-versus-getting point is the lasting one.
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2. Buying a big diesel welder you can't start first visited done
Uses and value of Miller Big D4 diesel WELDER
A Miller Big D4 diesel welder is offered at a military surplus sale with no chance to run it. Replies describe what such a machine is for and say diesel repairs are expensive; one advises that if you cannot see it start or turn over, bid only its scrap value, and others agree it is a risky blind buy. One reply adds that big diesel units had been going cheaply at auctions.
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3. Leaking seals: rebuild the Continental F163 or not? visited done
SA 200 F 163 Continental rebuild
An SA-200 owner with oil leaking from the front and rear seals weighs a full engine rebuild. A reply points to online Continental engine manuals, the owner plans a compression test first, and one experienced rebuilder calls these simple low-speed engines and advises against over-fixing; replacing the seals without a full teardown is raised. PlastiGauge bearing checks are discussed with caveats.
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4. Reattaching a loose exhaust stack visited done
Lincoln SA-200 / Exhaust stack
A newly bought SA-200's stack had been brazed to the manifold and came loose. One reply says braze lacks the hot strength for that spot, while another says brazing and nickel welding are both widely used on clean metal. Replies warn against galvanized pipe because of zinc fumes when hot and suggest black pipe with anti-seize. Bracing the stack and hand-tapping the cast manifold are also covered.
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5. When the automatic idle won't work visited done
SA 200 welder spec question
On a refurbished SA-200 the control that raises engine speed when an arc is struck, and the idle/high switch, do not work. The owner reports a Lincoln repair shop's advice to run it at a fixed speed with a manual throttle, and that the board can be repaired; replies discuss the right speed, with one recalling a different figure, and how the governor should hold it.
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6. Running power tools from the welder's DC output visited done
SA 200 welder and ac power tool question
Can an SA-200 power grinders and drills in the field? Replies say tools with brush (universal) motors generally run on its DC output, but motors such as split-phase or capacitor-start, and tools with speed controls or AC-only switches, are a problem. A belt-driven alternator off the engine is suggested for real AC. One reply about turning tools upside down is a joke.
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7. Engine runs but there's no power output visited done
Problem with Lincoln Ranger 8 - no output
A Lincoln Ranger 8 ran out of fuel while powering appliances and gave no output after refuelling. Replies list causes from a tripped breaker or blown fuse to circuit-board or winding damage, point to the manual's wiring diagrams, and raise warranty dating from the serial number. Replies also mention lost residual magnetism; one warns restoring it must be done exactly to the machine's own diagram.
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