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You sound like we need another TR.

Tim

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Tim Williams
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My Grandfather who served 30 years in the Marine corps, said that "apathy" will be what destroys America. The American People have become W A Y to apathitic to make any sort of real changes anytime soon.

n.

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North

No, "anything" cannot. And a lot of those that "could" are to unlikely to worry about.

You worry about your lathe exploding from centrifugal force every time you turn it on?

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Offbreed

Lots of deaths, yes. Total wipeout? No. The earth is too big, and there are too many people ready to use their ingenuity to stay alive.

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Offbreed

Must be a pretty weird looking dude, eyes glowing in the dark, steam pouring out his ears, and all.

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Offbreed

Gunner jingoed:

"Team America is afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do so would result in even less self-esteem than they currently have. Their methodology is to lie about what's really happening in the hopes of remaining in power, and continue doing whatever they damn well please. The problem is that they have concealed and obfuscated for so longmthat, as a group, they themselves are no longer sure of their goals. They are a collection of wild-eyed religious fanatics, all holding on to an illusion of a cowboy on a horse. Some want to hasten the return of somebody else's messiah, others just prefer the evil foisted on the Earth by their 'God' and its spokesmen. They wish to make the Second Amendment the eleventh commandment. I'll give them that one anyway. Some want sex with temple virgins, others want voting rights for their slaves and religious icons. Some want Fox 'News' and subservience to the government nanny state, others want a culture that walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of political correctness. I view the American voter in much the same way I view the competing factions of Islamic fundamentalists. The latter hate each other to the core, and only join forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate everyone else, and only join forces to support the international bankers and the God of War." ---unknown

Gio

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Gio Medici

That's what the Dinosaurs said isn't it?

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J. R. Carroll

"...name any example of human engineering that could "kill the entire world with one accident..."

I accept the challenge! (He said, with tongue in cheek...)

#1 - Famous 'Software Maker' discovers 'error' in their operating system for medical nanobots (nanotechnology).

'In the news, the Government has nuked several cities in an effort to prevent the spread of defective Anti-Haemophilia nanobots. While initially designed to help the blood of Haemophiliacs clot properly, these nanobots cause massive, fatal bloodclots when accidentally introduced to normal Humans-'

And the 'advertising slogan' for the medical nanobot range? 'Who do you want to have working on you today?'

#2 - Genetically engineered food stuffs endowed with 'Human Genes' (Google for it), result in plant diseases 'jumping species'.

'It was horrible', the Chief of Operations said, 'All those people with 'rust' disease, we had no choice but to flame-thrower them all!'

#3 - GM (Genetically Modified) Mousepox, but done 'differently'.

'Child mortality rates for the age group 5 and under have soared to

100% with the advent of GM Chickenpox, said to have been released by Al Quaeda. The mortality rate remains at 50% for those in the 6-10 age group, usually because they have significant immunity to the normally occurring strain of the disease either through having survived an infection or having been vaccinated prior to attending school, but the rate rises to 75% for anyone over this age who has NOT recently overcome an infection of the normal strain, or been vaccinated against it... The Government is in emergency session over what effects the loss of some 50 to 75% of the adult population will mean on our National Security and Economy, as well as the almost total loss of the newly born generation...'

-- Yours, DBM - snipped-for-privacy@uq.net.au From Somewhere in Australia, the Land of Tree-hugging Funnelwebs...

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DBM

"...TMI or any other USA'n reactor can NOT fail in the same way as Chernoby..."

While I would like to be reassured by your statement, Mr Murphy would probably shrug his shoulders and say 'So? They'll just find some OTHER way to FUBAR...'

-- Yours, DBM - snipped-for-privacy@uq.net.au From Somewhere in Australia, the Land of Tree-hugging Funnelwebs...

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DBM

Or:

Something went wrong today when China tested their new "Anti-matter" bomb. The anti-matter cloud will slow disolve the planet withing a couple of days killing all life.

Have a nice day,

N.

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North

We'll name him "Atomo"

n.

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North

So John..you are now claiming that humans wiped out the dinosaurs? Perhaps it was the Atlantians who in a fit of pique, used a tractor beam on that asteroid and used it to commit suicide, incidently taking out the dinos at the same time.

Sure you and John S havent been drinking from the same well?

Gunner

Liberals - Cosmopolitan critics, men who are the friends of every country save their own. Benjamin Disraeli

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Gunner

None of the above examples would kill the entire world.

Gunner

Liberals - Cosmopolitan critics, men who are the friends of every country save their own. Benjamin Disraeli

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Gunner

The author didnt think enough of his own dreck to put his name on it?

LOL

Gunner

Liberals - Cosmopolitan critics, men who are the friends of every country save their own. Benjamin Disraeli

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Gunner

No, Just that the earth isn't to big for an E.L.E., which is what Offbreed said. It isn't. I believe our nuclear britches are big enough to compete in this arena. Nuclear, or nucular to the unwashed and president booby, power is safe these days and as soon as the residents of Nevada resign themselves to the inevitable there will be adequate storage for the detritus. You can't do much damage with a pebble bed and we ought to get about building as many as are required. You know if we weren't so busy burning up our own considerable oil reserves we could wait for oil to reach $100.00 per bbl and start selling the stuff. This is what the Iranians want to do. Fuck Phillips Conoco, the reserves are the property of the citizens of the US and the revenue would come in very handy considering the considerable real and trade deficits we are accumulating. I think it's time for Halliburton and the rest to be my bitch instead of the other way around. If they don't like it screw them and find somebody else. They aren't doing any favors here but for themselves and their shareholders.

I can't tell you what well JS is drinking from but the guy can cook and that's good enough for me!

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J. R. Carroll

Do you have any science better than Murphy's Law with which to back up your thoughts?

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Dave Hinz

No matter how 'safe' you make something, there's aways the chance of a 'what if' or 'shit happens'. For example, what if some terrorist somehow snuck into the core of a reactor wearing a backpack nuke ? You see, rather unlikely, but 'shit happens'

n.

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North

Nonsense. It's *pregnancies carried to full-term and delivered* that have fallen in the first-world, a huge difference. (Unless in your mind, employing birth control and/or terminating pregnancies via medical abortion, are metrics of a woman's fertility.)

Now it *is* true that first-world fertility levels are dropping amongst women who are actively trying to get pregnant. But that's because most first-world women are opting out of child bearing (by using birth control & abortion) until they reach their late-30's (if at all), at which time their advanced age works against them (not to mention any trauma to the uterus from prior abortions, or the possible adverse fertility effects of decades of using birth control hormones).

So if you're concerned about birth rates (not fertility) in first-world countries, you have to cast your eye on the social issues that are driving women to abandon child bearing (and to abandon child rearing, which is another crisis in first-world countries). This can be traced to several key factors:

  1. Radical social feminism (often driven by lesbian activists) that teaches society's women that being a mother and a house wife is "lower than dirt". They emphasize and glamorize the goals of career and self-centeredness over family values.
  2. A tax-hungry socialist-driven government that demands so much revenues from families that it is difficult, if not impossible, to survive without two full-time incomes.
  3. A media and celebrity-driven culture that, again, emphasizes self-centeredness and "independence", while simultaneously degrading the concept of traditional nuclear families.
  4. A highly-commercialized and competitive culture that prizes the accumulation of material possessions, while totally disregarding traditional values (like family, morality, ethics, raising good children, etc.)

Of course, it's no coincidence that all of the above is mostly driven by the same group of politically-motivated people.

- Michael

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DeepDiver

Yes. And if shit happens in the USA'n design of nuclear reactor, even the relatively old TMI design, the results are a LOT less disasterous than the Russian design at Chernobyl.

About the same as that same backpack-wearing terrorist taking out the superbowl, I suppose.

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Dave Hinz

"...Do you have any science better than Murphy's Law with which to back up your thoughts?..."

Unfortunately, no. Nothing concrete, conclusive, or comforting.

The comment I made re 'Murphy' is perhaps not a 'scientific proof', but more of a 'Humans are Prone to Error' statement - otherwise known as the 'if the mechanics/electrics/hydraulics didn't fail, then it must have been Pilot Error that caused the crash' school of thinking.

Then there's the matter of 'modern management' techniques...

Link to website dealing with a recent accident in a Japanese Nuclear reactor - 4 dead, 7 injured (report MDN - Aug 11 2004).

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Search page for 'reactor stories' on MDN (Mainichi Daily News), all pages should be in English.

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Regardless of reactor type or design, Humans are Humans...

-- Yours, DBM - snipped-for-privacy@uq.net.au From Somewhere in Australia, the Land of Tree-hugging Funnelwebs...

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DBM

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