Old Sodbury

Absolutely!

Nick H

I shall be there with a friend who's selling. No buying for me though

- funds have gone on a concrete mixer (vintage of course!) this month. Do say hello if you recognise me - I tend to concentrate on the myriad of junk rather than the faces in the crowd!

Cheers

Dan

We've managed to put almost exactly 2000 miles on the new van in a week, so yet more driving is out for this weekend...

Peter

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Just got back, a nice PB seems for have followed me home. Now I will have to figure out its date and the correct colour.

Serial number 19515.

There is a sixth digit which is badly stamped, possibly a 4. So make that 195154.

A good day out, and I managed to come home in profit with a few nice bits and bobs, which is nice. Good to see a few familiar faces there. Distinct lack of quality items though - a few pics at

. And I'm still bemused at the sight of John M on a Ladies bike with a pair of bolt croppers under his arm... :-)

Regards Dan

Dan,

The rumour I heard was that he bought the bolt cutters to nick the bike,now I thought I new John quite well but maybe that is not the case. Maybe he is a bit of a tight wotsit and wont put fuel in his wife's car and makes her cycle to work, we shall never know :-))

Mart>>

Its probably a good job I didnt go, because that Millars would have no doubt followed me home. Do you know if it sold? It was at Enstone last year but he was asking about £700

Mike M

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She already does that Martin. Manages about 25 miles a day on her bike and enjoys it. It does save on fuel as well and that appeals to my wallet.

Unfortunately the bolt cutters have various teeth marks on the jaws so cutting anything is a bit of a lottery. I bought them as I've a brand new set of jaws in the workshop. Unfortunately I got it slightly wrong and my jaws are for a 30" set and these are 36". Drat my poor memory. They only cost me a fiver though so it's not too bad. Incidentally, if anyone tries to strip a set of Record bolt cutters, one of the jaw bolts is LH thread.

Other purchases included a domestic consumer unit, a RCD outdoor 13A socket, a hedge trimmer and various dies. The latter items were from a guy who'd got a box of miscellaneous taps & dies, most of which were particularly obscure even by my standards. A lot didn't seem to fit any standard but even those that did would be unlikely to get much use. No5 UNF and 15/16 BSsomethread are just two examples.

Generally a good day out. There were more stalls than normal and the weather was perfect for once. The car park was full but Dan reckoned few folks were buying, at least they weren't buying from him. The 11.00 start time is very leisurely but makes me wonder if there's more to be had by paying the little extra and getting in early, especially if a few folks get together.

John

"Dan Howden" wrote

Definitely a good day, nice to see you Dan, and particularly to have a closer look at the Clarke Troller; what an odd little device - not really an outboard motor, more submarine really! Talking of outboards, I bought a seized and incomplete BMB twin on the basis that the tank might be adapted to fit the Evinrude pump (looks promising) then saw an actual Evinrude unit. Noting my interest, the vendor used the highly unfair sales tactic of shouting a lower price at me every time I passed that way - by the time everyone was starting to pack away it proved irresistible. Again, I hoped it might yield some parts for the pumper but, on returning home, I consulted the Evinrude Master Parts List and found that the two have absolutely nothing in common (outboard is a Model N Sportwin and pumper is based on a Model F Fleetwin). However, the outboard turned out to be in pretty reasonable condition and I was surprised to find that it dated to 1925 - so I'd probably feel a bit bad about breaking it anyway. Trouble is I don't collect outboards and don't particularly want to start - must be worth something to someone.

Nick H

At least two engines were marked as sold by 1115, I strongly suspect that, in the best tradition of car boot sales, the best bargains had changed hands between traders before the public were allowed in.

Hopefully there will be another chance to pick up some nice stuff at Cranmore on the 20th which is an engine event rather than a general farm event.

"Dan Howden" wrote (snip):-

Lister seemed reasonable value, though a bit like D's many people seem to regard the Juniors as 'all the same'. I've never actually seen a Stuart K before and it was somewhat larger than I expected from pictures. Don't know the vendor's name, but he often seems to turn up with interesting and unusual stuff - bit pricey though. Wade dragsaw - too dangerous as in you might have been tempted to buy, or just too dangerous full stop (like old hay balers, they fall into the 'whirling death' catagory for me)? The Gardner (aparently ex Trinity House and complete with dynamo on bedplate) would make a very nice exhibit.

Nick H

Yes indeed, but at £2350.00 ??

It seems that prices for anything half reasonable are getting a bit out of range of even the relatively well-off amongst us, and the Stuart K at £450.00 did nothing to dispel that feeling.

I don't know if the Gardner sold, but I think a lot of people looked at the price and walked...

Peter

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PA> Yes indeed, but at £2350.00 ??

PA> It seems that prices for anything half reasonable are getting a bit PA> out of range of even the relatively well-off amongst us, and the PA> Stuart K at £450.00 did nothing to dispel that feeling.

PA> I don't know if the Gardner sold, but I think a lot of people looked PA> at the price and walked...

PA> Peter

Well, we all make our own value judgements. I'd have liked the S-T K and could probably have run to the asking price but, despite its rarity, it just didn't seem 'worth it'. The Gardner OTOH I could niether afford nor for that matter move. But hypothetically, for the same sort of money as say a rather more common Blackstone hot bulb, I'd give it house room!

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I couldn't justify the money quite frankly, there are lots of other things we would 'like' rather than 'need', and while I remember spending £1000 on the 1XHR Ruston diesel, thinking I had done well, it was almost new, and complete with books etc.

The petrol Gardner is another one of those items that are expensive because of seller's profit margins, not because of what they are.

The Blackstone is expensive because of what it is, not because of the profit margin.

Perhaps we have differing values these days? I certainly haven't got involved in anything new on the engine front for a while, but with the factory move and family bereavements we haven't had that much time.

Also there are 'other interests' that raise their heads above the parapets and take up time and money.

The one thing that has grown is the website, should be up to 7000 pages at Xmas time, that takes up a LOT of spare time, probably more now than when we started it 8 years ago (is it really that long???)

Peter

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PA> The petrol Gardner is another one of those items that are expensive PA> because of seller's profit margins, not because of what they are.

PA> The Blackstone is expensive because of what it is, not because of the PA> profit margin.

Explain, why is the Blackstone intrinsically more valuable than the Gardner?

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Perception.

Blackstones have always commanded a higher price than almost any other engine of the same size and type, only Richard Hornsby engines appear to have had the same cachet amongst prospective collectors.

Having said that, Blackstones appear to be bought and sold more than RH?

I've never had anything for and against either make, and the Gardner 1L2 singles are nice bit of kit if a little heavy, but I cannot remember a time when Blackstones didn't command a premium.

Peter

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"Peter A Forbes" wrote

Odd, I would have thought the Gardner had the added cachet of rarity, one seldom sees them out and about while almost all rallies of any size will boast a Blackstone or two. Perhaps it is another 'Cinderella' engine and in fact everybody has one under the bench!

Nick H.