TIG welding help

Greetings all, I'm not an expert welder, but I've done enough to have an idea of what's going on. I've just migrated to tig and I'm having a heck of a time making all this work. I can't seem to figure out what's wrong. Here's the info: Weldcraft watercooled torch with gas lens, 3/32" tungsten - 1.5% lanthanated(grey end), 1/16" 308L filler rod, Lincoln Idealarc 300/300 tig - on low setting(60A max), pure argon running at 20 scfh, torch is negative with respect to workpiece(welder set at DC-). The foot pedal can only active the torch, can't control amperage except from the front panel(still working on the problem - homemade foot pedal). I'm experimenting with some 1/16" sandblasted steel. I can get an arc going easily enough and start laying down a bead with the filler. When I'm done with the weld, the back side of the steel looks terrible. All kinds of stalagtites and jagged chunks poking out of the back of the welds. Tungsten seems to ball up after a short time. Have tried raising the current, going to a 1/8" 2% thoriated tungsten, larger filler rod, removed gas lens. Even tried a thicker chunk(1/8") piece of steel. Results are basically the same. I tried joining a couple pieces of wire-brushed steel fuel line at right angles. Same problem. Tube was full of stalagtites. I started doing tig with my Powcon 300ST late last year before obtaining the Lincoln. Amazingly enough, I was having the same problems. Garbage coming out the back of the welds. I thought it was the Powcon. The only common things between the two systems are the torch, the gas bottle, and me. Is it possible that my argon is no good or maybe filled incorrectly? I have had the bottle over 10 years and used it with my mig before moving it to the tig. Actually I've had some funny problems with the mig over the years, too. Maybe I've answered my own question, but I'd like to find the definitive answer. Thanks for any suggestions.

-Jim

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Jim
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RoyJ

Roy, Yeah, I'm beginning to wonder. The label says argon, but who knows? I think it's time to visit my local welding supply and swap out tanks. I'll keep everyone posted.

-Jim

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Jim

I just discovered something else. Grey colored-coded tungstens are not

1.5% lanthanated, they're 2% ceriated. Somebody boxed 'em up wrong at the welder supply. I hate when that happens.
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Jim

I'm not a TIG expert by any means so this may not help but it sounds to me like your gas flow is too high, especially since you're using a gas lens. Try dropping it to 8-10 CFH.

Best Regards, Keith Marshall snipped-for-privacy@progressivelogic.com

"I'm not grown up enough to be so old!"

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Keith Marshall

Have you tried filling the tube with argon? Try it on AC and then on DC electrode positive.

Gunner, a newbie himself

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Gunner

Actually it can be either depending on maker. The only colors that are completely standard are Green for Pure Red for 2% Thoriated Yellow for 1% Thoriated Brown for 1% Zirconiated

There are others, but they are not 100% standard. Black for 1% Lanthanated Gold for 1.5% Lanthanated Blue for 2% Lanthanated White for 2% Zirconiated or Huntingdon Fusion's Triple Strikes Orange for 2% Ceriated

Grey can be Ceriated or Lanthanated

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stagesmith

Now, I'm not an expert either - but if you are using stainless steel filler rod (308L) you might be getting boogers on the back of the steel for the same reason that you need to backpurge stainless. Have you tried ER70 rod for mild steel?

Brian

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Brian

Quick update: This week I had a chance to fiddle again after reading/researching my problems. From what I've gathered, the 308L filler was "sugaring" on the back side of the steel. I spooled some .035 ER70 wire off the mig gun and tried that. No more problems! I believe the rest of my issues are now mostly technique and settings. I had pretty good luck yesterday laying some practice beads using a bit higher current and lower flow(15-18 cfh). Also sharpened my tungsten to sharper point. I had it at a 45 degree angle instead of a pencil point. Thanks for all your help.

-Jim

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Jim

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