wind and rudder steering. 3 days, 2 trees and 1 pole.

I have to refute your statement here. I have 8 grandchildren, and have to note that, while they have released much of it in the past, I have NEVER seen any quantity of snot actually FLY. It was/is generally eaten or spread on some nearby surface. Have you actually observed any quantity of it truly fly? In addition, your deprecatory comments concerning poles was truly unnecessary in this forum, and deeply hurtful to me, as my father was a pole, as were his parents. I hope we have seen the last of these kinds of comments, sir ;->

Perhaps you have never been sitting in front of someone when they sneeze ;-)

... | > I have NEVER seen any quantity of snot actually FLY. >

... | | Perhaps you have never been sitting in front of someone when they | | sneeze ;-)

Snot more ... goes ballistic. And some planes do too.

To respond to the original poster --

| that I got for like $20 WITH tx, rx, esc, 380, servos, etc, and | busted wings.

Sounds like a hell of a deal to me.

| To that I rubber banded on a $15 "aerobird extreme" (LOL) 55" wing | from another experiment.

LOL? The Aerobird Extreme flies remarkably well for what it is (and what it is is the high end of the low end R/C `toys'.) Yes, it is still three channel, rudder+dihedral, but it turns well, has lots of power and flies a reasonably long time. And will do plenty of aerobatics (which is I guess why it's `extreme'.)

| though it climbs like snot.

Is that good or bad? :) In some metaphors, snot seems fast, but in others, it's not so fast.

| I guess going from elevons to rudder/dihederal is a bit tricky. The | added side area and the lack of bank authority really don't lend | themselves to unpredictable wind conditions.

In gusty winds and tight quarters, what you want is lots of control authority, and the reflexes/experience to use it. Ailerons/elevons are somewhat better than rudder+dihedral, but you can have a remarakably nimble plane that just uses rudder+dihedral too.

And he's never heard of the "Farmer's Handkerchief." You plug one nostril with a thumb, and give a good blast out the other, being careful of the direction of flight. Distances of eight or ten feet are easily possible, depending on nostril caliber and viscosity of the projectile.

Dan

Enjoyed the ramble, you tell a good tale and paint an evocative picture.

Perhaps stay away from poles, say aren't they used for dancing nowadays what they doing out in the open ?

Perhaps, and this may spoil the fun some... put some extra dihedral into the wing somehow... but then that would keep it away from the poles and it would be a shame to miss that dancing stuff.

If you just gotta do it then aim for trees and give poles a rest. Trees are amenable to shaking - poles aint, 'sides youmay hit some of us guys stood watching round those poles.

Reg

Grandchildren may not get the snot to fly but I have a Labrador/something mix that can send snot flying a good 10 feet or so without sneezing. Just don't be in the line of flight or you will get the slimy result. :) The sneezed snot goes even further but as it usually hits myself or the wife ( I think he thinks we are targets) distance has not been accurately measured.

I'm not into these types of planes but seems like if the wind if blowing

20 mph...Disaster is bound to happen. I've flown electrics for others that show up at the field and seems to me an electric or any plane without much power is goin' down or away....they just ain't got it.

Hmm, I doubt a piece o'cake would have done much better. And slopers have NO engine and live for the wind.

I think this is more a function of light wing loading and lack of control authority, and my lack of skills and experience, not electric v/s gas. Sure you can power your way out of a lot of situations with some gassers AND with some electrics, but I'd like to explore the finesse route further.

It's windy (and cold) season here and I have no intentions of being grounded, so I'll be getting plenty of practice. The field has been amazingly unpopulated lately though, the guys around here need some disposable electric planes so they can keep me company (and maybe do some full contact combat :). Maybe they don't like standing in the cold while trying to coax the gassers to life, and while cleaning up after them. I'm sure they wouldn't even notice the cold if they spent the whole time flying, I don't. I don't even notice it when I'm occasionally picking up the pieces

8P.

Steve.

Reg, you are awesome. Not many people can just blurt out something so nice. Thanks.

P.S. the field has been empty, so there aint nobody to hit 'cept myself :(

Aye... the wife reckons so too (or was I dreaming) >:-)

Reg