I have used Fadals since 1984 The turcite used to peel off the box way machines. Had better luck w/linear way machines, just not as robust as Mazacks. My ex foreman ,who I sold my machines and Orlando business to, has a shop full of Fadals. He has had spindle and axis drive motor problems on all the newer ones.
The Hurcos: VM-1 (26 x 14 x 18) You cant just save the program,it saves the tool page and part set up, a real pain in the ass when you bring up a program you did months ago because it loads all the tools that were in the machine back then and resets the x,y & z zeros to that set-up also. If you are doing multiple hole patterns( different sizes) it has no way to prioritize tools, ie: it puts the spot drill in and out of the spindle for every set of holes(you can tell a Mazak to do every hole while that tool is in the spindle) You press hold to stop the machine, to get it going again yopu press hold again,not start like all the other machines. If you think this is petty wait till you hear a tool tearing up and you start smashing the hold button...hit it twice and it keeps going! Other little things, spindle shuts off or you lose jog when you go between screens. You have to hold the start button in for 2 seconds for the machine to start, its easy to push start and walk away from the machine only to come back and find you didnt machine the part!
I have the G-code feature but we do alot of 1-5 part runs and the conversational is great for this...most of the time I dont even save the programs...takes longer to type in all the right tools again than it does to make a new program!
----- Original Message ----- From: "DrollTroll" Newsgroups: alt.machines.cnc Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 10:28 AM Subject: Re: Milltronics VM25, or What?