Blowing Light Bulb..

May 14, 2007 24 Replies

In alt.engineering.electrical TimR wrote: | On May 18, 3:44 pm, snipped-for-privacy@ipal.net wrote: |> In alt.engineering.electrical TimR wrote: |> | Probably this is a dumb question, but: |> | |> | I know NFPA now requires arc fault breakers for some circuits in the |> | US, but I went overseas before I actually saw one used. |> | |> | Will a light bulb arc trip an arc fault breaker? |>

|> Never say never, but generally very unlikely. I've seen one case of a |> bulb burnout trip a regular breaker. Presumably had that been an arc |> fault breaker, it would still be tripped at least for the overload part |> of the fault. An arc fault breaker generally includes GFCI protection |> as well as traditional magnetic and thermal overload protection. |>

|> -- |> |---------------------------------------/----------------------------------?| |> | Phil Howard KA9WGN (ka9wgn.ham.org) / Do not send to the address below | |> | first name lower case at ipal.net / snipped-for-privacy@ipal.net | |> |------------------------------------/-------------------------------------?| | | I think you're right. From my web reading, it looks like an AFCI | should be protective against parallel arc faults but not likely to | trip on a series one, nor anything on an applicance cord, extension | cord, etc.

Presumably this type of protection is going to be required with no products yet available, or well field tested, to comply with. Hopefully when they do get series arc protection devices ready, they won't be fooled by motors, switching power supplies, and most lightbulb filament failures. There's a lot of waveform smarts that has to be squeezed into a tiny box that's going to get awfully hot with so many of them in there (and all those neutral pigtails clogging up the airflow), and has to last for 20 years or more.

Here in the US we call 'em gremlins, but I'm pretty sure they're the same species.......

Jeff Waymouth

cupra wrote:

We have gremlins too - the diiference is the pixys and faeries *can* be good to you if you treat them well!

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"Another less common legend, but one which is found elsewhere in England and Scandinavia alike, is that of a ploughman who was at work in one of the Sidwell fields. As he worked he heard what he took to be a child crying, and lamenting that it had "broken its peel," round the barrow. The "peel" is the long wooden shovel with which the bread is put into the old brick-ovens, but the man went to see if he could find the child, whom he supposed must have wandered from home. He could see no one, but on the side of the mound was the broken peel, which he mended with string, being good natured, and supposing that the child could not be far away. When he left work in the evening he went to see if the peel had been recovered. It was gone, but in its place was a cake hot from the oven of the grateful pixy."

-------------- What about Terry Pratchett's Pictsies? Give them a bit of scumble and they will be very helpful.

Do you have a flatbed scanner? lay the bulb on the glass with the hole straigh down, and cover the bulb with a white cloth. I use an old white tee shirt.

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