Is there an equation to calculate the resistance of a light bulb as it
heats up over time?

I'd assume this is an intergral formula and is not linear.

Thanks

I'd assume this is an intergral formula and is not linear.

Thanks

I'd assume this is an intergral formula and is not linear.

Thanks

A second thing is to use a scope and get traces of voltage and current on energisation of a bulb and from this get the variation of resistance with time, for that particular voltage source. Another source, another place, another R vs time curve.

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This is a tough problem. The Standard Handbook for Electrical Engineers (probably from GE) has steady state graphs for various characteristics of tungsten lamps as a function of applied voltage. Making a mathematical model of transient heating that includes heat transfer in the filament would be a serious project.

Bill -- Fermez le Bush

This is a tough problem. The Standard Handbook for Electrical Engineers (probably from GE) has steady state graphs for various characteristics of tungsten lamps as a function of applied voltage. Making a mathematical model of transient heating that includes heat transfer in the filament would be a serious project.

Bill -- Fermez le Bush

The only thing I have ever seen on this is a linear equation that was criticized at the time for its application because resistance is not linear with temperature. Here it is from an earlier post: Temperature is of major importance when determining DC resistance. For 100 per cent IACS copper dc resistance can be found with the following equation: Rdc=( (Pc/CMA)*((tah+T)/(tah.+20)) )*(length in feet)

Where Pc is the circular mil ohm resistance in ohms at 20 degrees C. tah is the inferred temperature of zero resistance. T is the temperature in degrees C at which we wish to find the DC resistance CMA is circular mil area (diameter of conductor in thousandths of an inch squared) Example: For the resistance of a copper conductor at 75 degrees C. with a CMA of 1620 circular mils (No. 18 AWG) 1000 feet long the resistance would be: Rdc=(10.371 ohms/1620 cma)(234.5 degrees C+75 degrees C)/(234.5 degrees C+20 degrees C))(1000 ft)

Rdc=7.8 ohms per thousand feet This matches the value in Table 8 or Chapter 9 in the NEC. For resistance of other metals used the circular mil ohms resistance per foot at 20 degrees C in place of the value of 10.371 used for copper. Typical vaues for Pc and tah are: copper (100 per cent IACS) is 10.371 ,tah is 234.5 Aluminum (61 per cent IACS) is 17.002, tah is 228.1 Brass (27.3 per cent IACS) (70 cu, 30 Zn) is 38.0 and tah is 912 Lead (7.84 per cent IACS) 132.3 and tah is 236

Reference: Neher McGrath paper The Calculation of the Temperature Rise and Load Capability of Cable Systems published by AIEE (now the IEEE) October 1957

I found the circular mil ohm foot resistance of tungsten. It is 33.2 ohms. A simple method to find the inferred temperature of zero resistance is to measure the actual resistance of a tungsten filament at two temperatures and draw a straight line on x-y coordinate graph paper. Where the line crosses the X axes is the inferred temperature of zero resistance. The diameter can be found using a caliper and you have your constants for an approximation.

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You could try sci.engr.lightning

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You could try sci.engr.lightning

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