1800 vs 3600 RPM for phase converter

Apr 16, 2009 7 Replies

I recall from various discussions here that 1800 RPM motors were preferred over the higher speed ones when making a phase converter. I picked up a 3 HP Baldor at a factory closing today for $10 with the intent of making a phase converter, and it's 3600 RPM. Why are the lower RPM motors preferred?



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they are quieter. Otherwise a 3600 RPM motor will do just fine.

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I think the size of the motor is the key. A three hp 3450 rpm motor is smaller than a three hp 1750 rpm motor.

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Dan

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I think the size of the motor is the key. A three hp 3450 rpm motor is smaller than a three hp 1750 rpm motor.

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Dan

I have been told that a 1750 rpm motor was 4 pole and 3600 rpm was 2 pole. Thus making the 1750 rpm a better candidate, because it had more copper in it to generate the third leg.

Richard W.

True. But I'm wondering.....

The kinetic energy energy of a rotating body is a function of the square of the angular velocity. Thus a flywheel of n kilograms on a 3600 rpm motor will have 4x the energy of the 1800 RPM one.

That sounds relevant...

From my experience it's down to the noise; the cooling fan in my 2 pole

3000RPM motor (50Hz over here) was so noisy that I pulled it out and fitted a 6" enclosure fan (Muffin fan) on the end case instead, it's now tolerably noisy although the motor itself is still noisier than a 4 pole would have been. Aside from that, the motor works well as an idler. Martin

It may be, but you have 2 legs running the motor to generate the third leg on both motors. It not just idling under load, it's generating the third leg. So it would seem that a 4 pole motor would be better under higher loads.

Richard W.

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