Compressed air driven fans

I was visiting my Amish friend today. He has several ceiling fans and a pedistal fan run with air motors. One has a Sproul W16-10 motor
that has 6 cylinders and a swash plate design. The others have oscilating cylinder, single cylinder units. Another has a Gast and Thompson direct drive motors. Google searches have not yielded anything. Do any of you have any manufacturer information? These are made in Pensylvania and are popular in the Amish Community there as well.
Bob
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Searching www.thomasglobal.com for pneumatic motors yields 227 companies that supply the same.
Gast Manufacturing, Inc P.O. Box 97 Benton Harbor, MI 49023-0097 USA
Phone: 269.926.6171 Fax: 269.925.8288
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bob snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com wrote:

Yepper, there's an interesting thought.
Amish web sites...
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Why do I keep seeing Charlottes Web..... Some Pig.
Bill
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One of those Amish loopholes? How do they generate the compressed air to drive the fans?
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I have often pondered that question myself. I have worked for one that had a windmill about a half a mile away pumping water to a storage tank near the house. He had an electric booster pump boosting the water to the house. When the windmill could not keep up he had a pump jack underneath the windmill powered by a Honda motor pumping water to the storage tank. There was a gas well on the place and he used a bunch of natural gas to keep the storage tank and pipes pump etc from freezing. Near the house was a barn with electricity, PHONE, and other sinful modern conviences. He also had some pretty nice tractors. The house his family lived in was wired for electricity, he did not build the house, they did not use the electricity or the phone. BUT they went about 150 ft to the barn with every modern convience known to man.
There were other contradictions TO ME that were visible but to keep this short. I asked a man one time what is in the Amish to make them think as they do. His reply was "An idle mind is the devils workshop" They try to work everyones ass off to keep them from getting in trouble. So I still do not know what is going on with them as far as what is sinful or not or what or why they do what they do but I think they are strange. For him it was wrong to pump water with electricity, BUT he could boost the water with electricity. NO phone or electricity in the house,BUT in his barn OK. His DAD had a van, he could not drive it,BUT he could hire someone to drive it and his family around. I guess they are like Baptists and drinking.
Scott in Texas
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On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 18:49:19 -0700, snipped-for-privacy@cctc.net wrote:

You mean when four of them get together, there is always a fifth?
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ATP* wrote:

The Amish loophole that I admired was a modern piece of farm machinery being pulled by a team of horses with a 350 chev. engine mounted on the drawbar driving the pto shaft. They should think of going into politics.
John
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I had an Amish person buy an Onan generator head from me for military MEP-003A generators.
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That one I've heard of. Apparently it's OK to use gas engines, but not as vehicle propulsion. Maybe they can use gas compressors but not electricity. What an outrageous waste of resources, if you compare the energy used to a simple direct drive electric fan.
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Might be for a dairy cooler. Someplace that the state won't allow flame lamps - like a chicken 'barn'. Explosion is not nice.
Martin
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On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 23:54:36 -0700, Too_Many_Tools

The BASIS for the rules of the Amish, Old Order, and other "Conservative" anabaptist sects were very plain, and made a lot of sense. It was all based on 3 things -Humility,being a "separate people" and "brotherhood" The "separate people" became the "plain folk" which tied in with the humility. The "Brotherhood" dictated that none in a community would have and use something another in the community could not afford. So you have the Amish who drive grey top buggies, the "old order" amish who drive the same with steel wheels and no buttons or zippers on their clothes and farm only with tractors.No rubber boots (even heals or soles), no rubber belts on machinery - basically still in the 1600's. You have the Old Order Mennonites who drive black buggies (some with fancy green pinstripes, some red, etc) and who generally have rubber tires, may have buttons and/or zippers, and wear rubber boots. Some of which have advanced to using tractors(some only with steel wheels - and only red or green in color) all the way up to some of the Amish and "reborn" who have extremely complex farm based businesses, with CNC machine shops, tube mills, laser cutters, etc in state-of-the art (or in other cases, straight out of the '60s) shops run off a deisel generator (or occaisionally domestic Hydro) while the homes have no hydro, and usually also no phones.
It's interesting here in Ontario to see the "reborn " (or David Martin Mennonite) women going in to do the shopping with the horse and buggy, talking on the cell phone, talking to Hubby out in the machine shop, being reminded to pick up his cigars/chewing tobacco/machine parts/or whatever. (Locally known as the "Mennonite Mafia")
Sadly MANY have totally lost sight of the basis of their beleifs and the reason for the rules they supposedly live by. Many have found ways to bend the rules and rationalise things, while many others consciencously live the "simple life" as "the silent in the land".
You have to admire them (those that "walk the talk"), even if you don't understand or agree with their beliefs. Some very inventive, intelligent,hard working, honest and unselfish people who believe in doing what is right, doing it right, and not taking any credit for it, have made hundreds of thousands of acres of marginal farmland into some of the most productive land on earth while leaving a "carbon footprint" that is the envy of the most rabid "Greens" and environmentalists you could find.
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 08:20:16 -0700, Too_Many_Tools

It's actually surprising how little "control" is exerted i the case of these groups. Among the Amish, in particular, in the mid teans the youn-uns are aften allowed to go "free" to decide if they want to stay in the group permanently (as baptised members) or leave the community. A VERY substantial majority choose to stay.
I live in a large Mennonite populated area -Amish, "old order" Amish (Nafzinger etc), Old Order mennonite, Conservative Mennonite,Waterloo-Markham Mennonite, Conference Mennonite, Mennonite Brethren, and Old Colony Mennonite(Mexican) as well as the Reborn (Dave Martin). The Dave Martin group are the most involved (of the "conservative" groups) in industry, and have tended to rationalise the most. They are the ones known locally as the "Mennonite Mafia" or "Wallenstein Mafia" because of their business practices etc. Hesr the Old Order, Amish, OldOrder Amish, and the like are largely farmers, and also include some excellent craftsmen building furniture etc in the traditional way. Most are VERY devout, and do not interact a whole lot with the "outside" world. No involvement with government, insurance,education(secondary, or public) etc. Many still use the Ausbund as their "hymnal" and work in low german (dialect) while worshipping in "high german".
Conference Mennonites are outwardly not a whole lot different than their Baptist, Lutheran, or Catholic neighbours but have a pacifist viewpoint, a (generally) well developed social conscience, and believe in "believer's baptism" and separation of church and state. Mennonite Brethren are very similar (but generally came through Russia rather than Holland/Pensylvania) and are more likely to be involved in higher education and government/politics than their conference(swiss) brethren.
All have a reputation for being a bit on the shrewd side (knowing the value of a buck) but also being trustworthy. Somewhat tongue-in-cheek Definition of a Mennonite? "One who can buy from a Jew and sell to a Scottsman and make a profit"
I can say that - 6th generation ex-pensylvania Mennonite (family 150 years in Waterloo County this year) - "square head with most of the corners knocked off in the school of hard knocks"
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clare at snyder.on.ca wrote:

And a view from afar (about 12000 miles!). I (like many others) was bowled over by the Amish's response to that shooting last year. To turn round & forgive the perp. & invite his family to share with them - that's walking the walk, with a vengeance! G*d bless them, I say!
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On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 17:19:57 +0800, David R Brooks

And remmber Dan Snyder and Danny Heatley?
Snyder was from my home town - Conference Mennonites. Distant relative.(2nd or 3rd cousin once or twice removed)
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I have seen at least 4 style of fans. One has the swash plate air motor, the Gast vane motor, and 2 oscilating cylinder motors. One has a belt drive for speed increase (pedistal fan) and the other is direct drive (ceiling fans).
These are nicely built units and he said that they came from the Amish in PA. I do not know the manufacturer. I am hoping that someone here knows.
Bob
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 07:00:31 -0700, bob snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com wrote:

Check with Lehmans (Kidron, OH) or Yoders (Shipshewana, Indiana ) or Zimmermans (Intercourse Pa.).
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