Corn!


Problems coming in Mexico?
"... Such thoughts could be extrapolated further, as Mexicans already blame
the rising cost of tortillas on the US ethanol industry. Any further rise
in prices could strain US-Mexican relationships to the point where the US
government could essentially be forced to choose between its ethanol
program
and the lives of poor Mexican people. The consequences for such an
event is
truly unimaginable. "
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Jerry Wass
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This is not the first time that USA 'agricultural interests' have messed with Mexico. A little research will turn up the fact that the Chiapas rebellion was (in part) sparked by cheap corn coming into Mexico via the 'free trade' agreement. History has shown that signing any trade agreement with the USA is the equilivant of selling your soul to the Devil. I am presently living in Honduras where produce from the US is selling cheaper than the local subsistance farmers can; again a so called free trade agreement. This is not good.
Ken.
Reply to
Ken Davey
Um? Market forces. You want to pay me more for corn than the Ethanol folks, go right ahead. Or are you saying that US farmers should be forced to subsidize corn food crops for Mexico now?
Reply to
Dave Hinz
I think what he's saying is, "Stop burning food in your SUV's."
Lance
Reply to
Lance A Boyle
That might be what he's saying, but what I'm saying, is "if you want to eat my corn, pay me more than the fuel people are paying me". Actually, in my case, it's "pay me enough to have me not renew my CRP contracts for the next decade", but, same idea. You want me to grow corn? Fine. Show me a profit. I don't CARE if you eat it, or distill it. I'd prefer you distill it to offset oil buys, to be honest.
Reply to
Dave Hinz
But I'm Mexican, and I only make $100 a year. How can I compete with rich Americans for my food source? A bushel of corn makes 2.5 gallons of ethanol. That would add about 50 miles to your car's range, but that bushel of corn would feed my family for several days.
Prefer to distil corn to dilute gasoline while my family starves? That sounds sort of selfish.
Lance
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Lance A Boyle
One Kg (2.2 pounds) of tortilla corn meal for $.78. A bushel weighs 52 pounds so at $.78/2= about $.354 a pound one bushel of corn minus waste in the grinding should be bringing around $18.40 a bushel. Even at $5.00 a bushel (currently in Nebraska $3.30 to $3.60 a bushel at rural elevators) someone besides the farmer is making the big bucks off of corn.
Anyone want to bet that the Mexican Corn farmers are getting less than a dollar a bushel? Some crooked asshole government middle man is screwing the Mexican farmers big time. Give the Mexican farmer $3.00 a bushel for the corn they produce and Mexico would have tortillas running out of their asses.
How about it. . . anyone have relatives that farm in Mexico that can give us the current price of corn Mexican farmers get a bushel?
Dennis
Reply to
TwoGuns
If we don't distil the corn, are you going to give it to the hungry? Corn has been cheap for many years, and yet we still had hungry people. Corn is about $3.50 per bushel now. That's pretty high, but a bushel weighs 54 lbs. How many tortillas can you make with 54 lbs of corn? How much has the cost increase really affected the price of a tortilla? I'd guess about $.01 for every 10 tortillas. I say let the farmers make a profit for a change.
Reply to
Dave Lyon
why is ethanol made from corn? why not beets or something else?
Reply to
erik litchy
Because, in the US, it is more cost effective to produce ethanol from something we have an abundance of. We still pay farmers not to grow corn. Ethanol is not the problem.
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Ron Thompson
Around here, the farmers are set up for corn, the equipment (infrastructure) makes that a more logical choice. I don't know if beets are raised here; if it becomes profitable, they will be. The whole thing about this "you're burning food!" crowd is that they don't think that the corn supply is elastic; it is.
Reply to
Dave Hinz
Lance A Boyle wrote in article ...
Your whole premise sounds as though the world OWES you a living........
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I've got a wife and six kids and can only afford a 100.00 for a new car. I can't believe you would even consider selling your car to another person for 15,000.00 as he already has a car and if you won't sell to me for a 100.00, my family and me will have to walk.
Dick
Reply to
Dick
I don't owe Mexico a damn thing. I hope the neighbor farmer can make a buck off of growing corn. Heck, I hope he makes lots of bucks so he doesn't think a subdivision across the street from me makes more sense than farming.
We send a fair amount of money to Mexico to buy oil. Their illegals send a lot of money home. They have resources.
This is Mexico's problem and they should deal with it.
Wes S
Reply to
clutch
How exactly does this have a thing to do with my original statement that I'd rather burn ethanol from locally produced corn to propel my vehicle, rather than gasoline distilled from oil purchased from countries which hate us?
We can always grow more corn. I've got land in the CRP program myself that I'm being paid not to farm. If the prices go high enough, that land and a whole lot more will come back into production. Let the market work out the price, production will follow.
Reply to
Dave Hinz
Es no mi problema.
No trabajo? Tough.
Gunner
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Gunner
Unka George (George McDuffee) ============================= ...and at the end of the fight is a tombstone white with the name of the late deceased, and the epitaph drear: ?A Fool lies here, who tried to hustle the East.?
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F. George McDuffee
internet sarcasm fails again....
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ATP*
Could be. In this non-interactive medium, it's hard to distinguish the clueless and pointless, from those pretending to be same.
Reply to
Dave Hinz
I'm for the farmer - just wonder how many there are now.
Martin
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