Dremel of Foredom

Lowe's has the Dremel xpr400 for about $75 on sale. The Foredom is $239,
and is stated as being for woodworking.
I intend to use it on steel, but nothing really heavy. Just some fine
finishing.
What do you use and like?
If I go with Foredom, do I have to use proprietary bits? I saw a ton of
these at a swap meet the other day, and if they can chuck up, they would be
pretty cheap.
I know Foredom is a much better unit, and it has a handpiece on a shaft
instead of you holding the motor. Do I really need to spend the extra for
the Foredom, or will the Dremel do most stuff?
Steve
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SteveB
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I hae a Dremel and two Foredoms (actually, a Foredom and a Pfsing -- about the same as a Foredom, with interchangeable handpieces).
Depends on the handpiece you get. You can get several different collet chucks, or a jacobs chuck handpiece. Nothing is proprietary.
The Foredom will last you a lifetime and almost all components that wear out are replaceable. You can use it for hours at a time, day after day, for years and years. Don't think in those terms for the Dremel. It is a hobbyist tool. The Foredom is a professional tool. You get what you pay for.
It should be against the law to sell motor tools that do not have a flexible shaft and a foot pedal control. The job takes three hands: one to hold the tool, one to hold the work, and one to control the speed. A flexible shaft and foot pedal does that job. If you want to go the cheaper route, by a Dremel and get the flexible shaft for it. Then go to a sewing machine place and buy a cheap foot control. This will cost far less than a Foredom. Then, as time goes by you'll luck in to additional Foredoms at yard sales, etc. Eventually you'll end up with a half-dozen.
Boris
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Boris Beizer
I have an old Foredom type 505 that was given to me by an old lady who used to use it to make jewelry. i use it for similar type stuff. This unit is smaller than the modern ones, and no snap on detachable handpiece. It uses the same type collets as a Dremel. It has worked fine up until recently, when the motor started to give off a small but distinct ozone odor when running. I presume that the brushes are failing. They are not as easy to check as the newer foredoms, gotta take the motor apart to get at them. I have not gotten to that yet.
Knowing it was a real long-shot, I emailed some pictures of it to Foredom to see if they might have parts! The woman who replied was very helpful, and after several emails over a few days, and some research on her part, she informed me that:
"Sorry, we do not have parts for that anymore",
and
"That machine is about 60 years old."
Oh well. I can't complain about that, I suppose. And i can't think of a better product endorsement. I have wanted a "real" Foredom for some years now. i even have a #30 handpiece I picked up someplace waiting for the day I get it!
Maybe this is an excuse to start fishing around ebay.
-AL
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Al A.
Consider the Proxxon also. Costs somewhere between Dremel and Foredom. Doesn't come with flex drive, but I don't find that a problem. Speed control is built in. The main advantage is that it has a tiny Jacobs chuck, which allows you to hold all the small drill sizes. The system that uses changeable collets (Dremel) is a pain, 'cause it seems like you are always wanting to use a bit with a diameter that's different than the set up you happen to have.
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Leo Lichtman
Anything but the Dremel, IMHO. I use a vintage Foredom; It'll accept any shaft a Dremel will and more, plus more "git er done" power.
There's other recommendations along the Foredom type line, good ideas.
No to Dremel
~D
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Dave
If you were looking only at units in a store, I'd suggest starting with the Dremel and, then, if you find yourself stretching its limits, get the Foredom.
If you can get the Foredom(s) at anywhere near (within $30-$50) what that Dremel will cost and will be content with just the handgrip/flex-shaft then go with the Foredom.
The only real "advantage" that the Dremel offers is in the area of attachments: Drill Press/Tool Stand, Router (both fixed and plunge), Shaper Table, etc., that enables someone with virtually zero storage/work space to have a miniture shop to work on small projects. [Their flex-shaft works - sorta - but is no competetion for Foredom's.]
Both will take standard 1/8"-shank burrs [HSS, Carbide, & Diamond] including those made for other brands. Dremel also offers collet sets for even smaller shanks. (I forget the exact sizes.)
I've used my Dremels to work with wood, glass, plastic, ceramic, copper, brass, and steel using a wide variety of burrs and "attachments". [Yah - I have several.] Most of the time, however, I end up using Diamond burrs that can, now, be picked up rather cheaply.
FWIW, if you tend to work both metal AND wood you might want to check out the "workshop-in-a-box"
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that SWMBO gave me at Valentines Day. (The circle cutter works *very* well. )
Both have their places - the "trick" is to use them each for what they each do best.
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RAM^3
I use Dremel tools mostly on electronic stuff - making holes in plastic, stuff like that. For anything metal I use carbide burrs in a die grinder. I'm not sure when I'd use a nice Foredom unit if I had one.
GWE
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Grant Erwin
Most of the time I'm working on small stuff - knives, small parts, etc. - and reserve the die grinder for "bigger" things and "bigger" jobs such as roughing out a blade shape, knocking rust off larger surfaces, etc., that either the Dremels are unsuited for or too weak for.
Since the prices have come down considerably, I tend to prefer diamond burrs over carbides, especially when working with hardened/tempered steel.
Here's some you might like to "play" with:
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The surprising thing about these is how well they've held up.
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RAM^3
Die grinders are ten times the tool that a dremel is, generally have 1/4 inch shanks, I run carbide burrs and flap wheels in my die grinder.
I have a Dremel, but I use it very little. For small jobs, the 1/4 inch die grinder is too big, which is when I pull out the Dremel.
Richard
Grant Erw> I use Dremel tools mostly on electronic stuff - making holes in plastic,
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Richard Ferguson

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