Has anyone seen any web sites/software that will give guidance into the
procedures for quotes you get from a professional metalforming fabrication
I'm trying to learn how they come to their pricing , after all, once they
get a DXF file - so much of it is automated.
I do simple parts....no complex angles....usually simple electronics
I am not sure what you are saying but if you are looking for a quote
please email me your dxf file
We have laser, folder etc
Wood burning camp stoves
How do you come to your pricing? If the parts are so simple, why not do them
yourself? Then, maybe, you will have an idea how others arrive at the price
they do. Are you getting multiple bids? If so, does there seem to be a fairly
close range in quotes? Personally, I use a dart board. I'm not a very good
player, so my prices on the jobs I get are usually kinda low. That must be why
I don't make a whole bunch of money.
I don't mind negotiating, but I can't stand chiselers.
That sounds to me like something someone would do if they had far too much
time on their hands.
This is based on experience. One learns (usually by underbidding) how much
time it takes to complete each step necessary to bring the project from your
drawing to completion. Other factors might be the type of material you
specify, as an example if your project requires material that has to be
purchased in 4X8 sheets and you only need a portion of that you are going to
buy the whole sheet.
If your project requires some novel fabrication technique or your design
doesn't take into consideration how the project will be be fabricated, this
can increase your costs.
It is always a fair question to ask the fab shop what you can do to get
your work done cheaper.
If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent.
Several thoughts (I used to make quotes for a sheetmetal shop):
-for a shop with a full production schedule to run your parts costs them
-no shop has a completely 'standard' set of tooling - lots depends on who
has brought their parts their before you arrive. As an example, if a shop
does 95% flat stuf with the occasional bracket and your part requires a 3
foot long multipart die with custom recesses for preinserted pem's it is a
good bet the cost will be passed along. Sometimes it makes business sense
to just buy a tool and not include it in the part cost because it will get
lots of use, other times not.
-shops often have an interesting mix of modern and archaic machinery.
Securing a contract for a long profitable job sometimes warranted buying
specialized equipment (like an automatic pem-serter) that would allow
ditching slower processes. Obviously no two shops get all the same
jobs...so capabilities vary.
-experienced quoters also keep up with the shop skillset and cost out setup
times accordingly. Our most experienced press brake man had a sudden stroke
one weekend and passed away. Tragic loss. The fellow who had to take his
place was nowhere near as experienced/fast. This was a bit of a pinch:
adjust quotes to match real costs or try to stay the same level of
competitive and just absorb the difference...
-if the shop forte is one thing and your part(s) aren't it, then quotes must
reflect the cost involved in training, extended setup times, ruined parts
while debugging parameters, etc.
-we would get the occasional Scrooge company trying to get us to work for
close to free, and pay their bills _very late_. Repeat jobs from them were
either turned down or priced to compensate for the trouble.
-processes that cannot be done in-house (powder coating, plating, heat
treating, etc.) have to be put out for bids and the (sometimes volatile)
cost passed along.
hope that helps
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