looking over the craftsman warranty thread i started wondering.....
I am finally at the time in my life that I need to get quality tools,
rather than cheap poor quality that i would buy once, use once, and
where to find them? are there any quality tools left?
it used to be that brand names meant something. now it seems that "to
be more competitive" even good brands are resorting to lower quality
control to save money and keep stockholders happy. so buying reputable
brand names is no good, because the quality that made the brand is no
so, I'd like to know where can i find tools of good quality. I will
assume premium prices, so dont bother telling about the "best bang for
your buck" deals.
lets try the following tools for suggestions
standard/phillips screwdriver set
pneumatic fittings (I have four identical sets that are not compatible)
socket sets(standard, metric, deep well, and impact)
orbital sanders(penumatic and electric)
electric hand drills(ac only please, I hate batteries)
everything i forgot to list :)
"Tater" wrote in news:1162154717.053088.21760
SK, craftsman, proto
SK, Proto, Craftsman PRO series ONLY
They don't make quality hand saws anymore.
Dewalt is pretty good.
Delta (not the cheap HD stuff, look at the industrial line)
For regular sockets, I use (and like, and recommend) Armstrong.
I use S-K and yes, a coupla HF Taiwanese sets
Ask a contractor. I have a Skil Model 77 worm drive I use for metal only.
that German brand Ernie likes (wear diapers when pricing)
Milwaukee Hole Shooters
"Tater" wrote in news:1162154717.053088.21760
Finding where they are sold is the tricky part.
Wiha or Facom. I like the Wiha ones that have the hex on the shank so you
can use a wrench for more leverage.
Stanley Anti Vibe.
The nicest stuff I've seen is made by a small comapany in Elgin, Il. called
Qualicorp. The ratchets grab in the smallest degree available and all of
the components are made of tool steel. They private label their tools for
Snap-On and Mack. I don't know if they sell direct.
Snap-On. They have the best polish and plating. Other than that most any
name brand is good.
For serious work you need both a sidewinder and a worm drive. For a worm
drive I'd go with Skil. For the sidewinder any saw by DeWalt, Makita,
Milwaukee, etc.. that costs over $125.00 should be good. Find the one that
fits you best.
Don't know for sure. Chicago Pneumatic used to be good, but I haven't used
a pneumatic sander in a long time. For electric I have a DeWalt. I doubt
that's the best there is though. I've heard that Fein makes the best.
DeWalt, Bosch, Milwaukee
I am very surprised that you like those Hole Shooters!
I have one of the Magnum Holeshooters and the trigger covers 3/4 of the
handle. When the bit starts to bind up, it becomes impossible to control
the speed because the torquing moves the trigger against my whole hand.
I have sworn off Milwaukee tools because any company that would
compromise the usability of a tool that badly for styling is one to avoid.
I am aware that using the side handle avoids this problem when I have
two hands free and room to get both hands in with the handle.
Don't know wether you have "Wera" or "WIHA". They are good.
Euro brands are Stahlwille, Hazet. They will outlast you.
Fein, or Makita, if you are "now" on budget.
Fein! They make the best hand tools for metalworking.
Most everything I've got in your categories is inherited or bought
decades back, other than ads and floor models I've got little
experience with the current crop. SK wrenches and sockets are still
good, buying onesies is kind of hard. Had one local dealer carrying
SK, they dumped them for chink crap. The Froggies got SK, probably
messed up the dealer/distributor network.
Hands saws are best purchased used, no really good ones are still made
in the US. You CAN get specialty hand saws from the likes of Lee
Valley and Garrett-Wade, most are British. I don't recall any
classic-style panel saws, though. For used, Nicholson and Disston made
very good ones, usually go very cheap at estate auctions.
De Walt has a very nice cabinet table saw, you can balance a coin on
edge on the table with it running. At one woodworking show, they had
the carriage out and flipped over, was a very impressive casting with a
stout trunnion system. Powermatic is another very nice make for a
cabinet saw. Best seen under power at a dealer or woodworking show.
If I had unlimited funds, I'd probably go with the Powermatic and
3-phase. I've currently got the De Walt contractors saw, I've still
got space problems. It's light, easy to move around and can be
equipped with extensions so 4x8 sheets can be ripped down
single-handed. The local dealer had half-off on refurbs so it wasn't
all that expensive. There's others that have the same features now, so
it might pay to look around if you're looking for such an item.
Milton still makes the best pneumatic fittings, IMO. They and Amflo
both have a 3-in-1 female fitting that will handle most of the
different male fittings out there, runs about twice what a regular
female quick-connect runs, good for a portable compressor output or
whip end. HF has a similar fitting, runs about half what a regular
Milton fitting runs, no idea of quality. The Milton one actually seals
better for me than the dedicated one meant for the male end. As to
which system to invest in, Milton covers A-, M-, T- and L-types, the
A-type seems to be most popular with the import tools. I've gotten
pretty much stuck into the T- or Truflate type. It was what they had
the most of at the local hardware store at the time. I've never seen
the L- or Lincoln type outside of surplus industrial stuff, I wouldn't
get into that system unless I had a bucket of surplus spares.
For a portable circular saw, I've got a Skil 77, weighs a ton, goes
through most things like butter, has the blade on the correct side for
a rightie, stops fast. If I were to do it again, I'd look into the
magnesium version, easier on the biceps. Maybe go for the 8" version,
the 7 1/4" blades don't always have quite enough reach. A lot depends
on how close your service depot is, they do require grease for the worm
drive and occasional brushes. Mine spent a lot of time on the bottom
of a home-made foldup saw table, I built a LOT of stuff with it in the
small apartment I used to have. Keep cleaning the sawdust out and
it'll last for decades.
Fine Woodworking puts out a tools review annual, the 2007 one is
currently out. You might want to get a copy and read some reviews.
I couldn't agree more - the Magnums are an ergonomic abomination. Robin
S. recommended a Metabo drill when I asked a while back. I bought one
and love it. It has a two speed gearbox and overload clutch, so if
you're working in an awkward position and are concerned about the tool
jamming, you can use high gear and dial the speed down. The clutch will
slip before you break your wrist or punch yourself in the face.
Coincidentally, I gave a beat-up, but still working, 1/2" Magnum to the
attendant at the dump just last week. It was going in the dumpster if he
didn't want it.