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Great site.

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thomassaccuci
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You "found" that site, eh? Odd, then, that the administrative and technical contact for that site just, er, _happen_ to have the same email address that you do.

In other words, you're a lying spammer, and should be avoided. Whatever "make money on tha internets" class you took, you should get a refund for.

When will these idiots ever learn that the shill spam is _so_ obvious, and that a whois lookup takes all of 5 seconds to do?

Reply to
Dave Hinz

And idiots like you got nothing better to do

Reply to
thomassaccuci

Don't like being found out as a lying scammer, eh? Gee, that's too bad. Let me see if I can squeeze out a tear for ya. ... nope, can't do it.

If you ran a decent busines, you wouldn't have to spam and lie to get visitors to your site.

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Dave Hinz

You've been called out, and you resort to name-calling? Highly professional.

It's pretty much standard practice for most netizens to do what he did. Thinly veiled spamming is pretty prevelent in most groups, and this is obviously no different.

If you would have said, "Hey, here is the website to my bus> And idiots like you got nothing better to do

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jw

Not only spam but his site is FULL of low-end foreign crap that everything I looked at is about 5 times the price. You should see what he charges for Chinese brushes, I wish I could sell American made for a quarter of what he charges, I'd be rich!

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Tom Gardner

Better yet is to add your web site to the bottom of all your ON TOPIC posts that actually enhance the group. It's called a "sig file" and can be set up easily. Posting a message telling us you want to do that and telling us your mail program is more acceptable than pretending you are a visitor to some random site when you are indeed the site owner or admin contact.

Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022

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Joe AutoDrill

... the funnyest thing is the coupon on the WebPage. Do I have to jig saw it out of my LCD when I put an order?

Maybe we should give that hint to stryped?

Nick

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Nick Müller

OOooh. The troll and the spammer - they deserve each other. Great idea.

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Dave Hinz

Yup. I know there's some guy named Joe here who does something with autodrills. If I ever need something of the sort, his reputation as a participant makes it obvious that I'll check out those links.

We're probably wasting our efforts, though, because the pissed-off spammer who has been exposed is probably gone by now.

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Dave Hinz

I visited that AutoDrill site a few times! You guys should check it out

You are right... He is probably gone. Sad thing si that he might have a good product, but the spam killed our interest before he even got started.

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Joe AutoDrill

Could you teach me (us?) how you picked up on that that "same email address"?

I did a WHOIS on www.SNIPPED through Network Solutions and it didn't show the OP's email address as the same one used for the post.

But, a Google for "TJT Sales" got me to "www.tjts****.com", a company selling similar jeweler's stuff, and a WHOIS on that URL reveals the snipped-for-privacy@cs.com email address.

Did you use an easier way to nail that one?

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I'm still having trouble getting worked up over spam like that, which does have a reasonable relationship to the newsgroup's theme. I know that there are those who believe that if left unchecked things will reach the point where so many posts will come from spammers that the usefulness of the newsgroup will be compromised, but thus far that hasn't been a problem for me.

I think that attracting new business relies greatly on creativity, and while there's little question that those kind of posts are technically dishonest, the damage is slight. Caveat emptor should always be used when dealing with any new vendor.

I still remember a company salesman named I traveled around with quite a bit about 30 years ago. Every time he visited a public restroom at a convention related to our industry he'd leave a short stack of his business cards on the top of each urinal. He swore the results were well worth the effort.

And (true story, cross my heart) about 15 years ago SWMBO visited the ladies' room at a professional convention and loudly asked, "Anyone here interested in a speech therapy job in Boston?". From one of the closed stalls came, "Yes, me." And from that she ended up with another employee.

Jeff

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Jeff Wisnia

Sure, no problem. The site I've been using for this is right at Network Solutions:

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in the domain in question, and there you go. His email is listed right there in "technical and administrative contact", same as he posted from.

I mean...if these people aren't even going to _try_...sheesh...

Well, I don't use NetSol as a registrar, but I'm happy to use their free tools when they're good. And this one, is.

There ya go.

Well, it's not just the "Hey, buy my crap" aspect of it, but the "oh, give me a break, how stupid do you think we are" reaction to an obvious shill. If the guy isn't honest from the beginning, what kind of service should you expect from him if you give him money and something goes wrong?

Far as I'm concerned, if the first thing out of a sales-weasel's mouth is a lie, I'm done considering his product. I just told basically that to a technical sales guy at work, for a 6-figure purchase. He lied about his competitors; I had researched them and knew the real situation. The product he sells has been removed from consideration regardless of technical merits it may have, and the VP agrees with my reasoning.

Well, sure that's just advertising. That's not handing them to guys as they come in, saying "Hey, I just found this cool place that sells stuff, you should check them out".

But again, that's an honest (if unusual) approach. Completely different.

Dave Hinz

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Dave Hinz

Dave, the reason I asked you is because that's exactly where I did look and the email addies for Administrative and Technical contacts both show as:

snipped-for-privacy@networksolutionsprivateregistration.com

which is clearly the same as the OP's which is:

snipped-for-privacy@cs.com

But, maybe that "Sharp cookie selling Girl Scouts" changed it with Network Solutions right after you speared him, which could make both you and I right.

I guessing....maybe the same kind of 'service' a farmer takes his cows to a bull for?

Jeff

Reply to
Jeff Wisnia

I meant NOT the same...another damn "brain fart"...

Jeff

Reply to
Jeff Wisnia

Ah, he's changed it then. Perhaps I shouldn't have told him where he made his mistake. Is there an update date on the record? Bet it's yesterday...

I think there's a "record updated on" record which will show us. I could dig through my browser cache, but as I know I saw it, I don't see much point.

Heh...

Reply to
Dave Hinz

Yup, NetSol says:

"Database last updated on 20-Jul-2005"

I'm always interested in learning new stuff though. I wonder if he's gone and hidden the contact email on his other domain name, tjtsales.com too?

Jeff

Reply to
Jeff Wisnia

Glad to know that I at least helped to inconvenience a spammer. While getting their accounts yanked is satisfying as well, making them jump through hoops is always enjoyable.

Reply to
Dave Hinz

This little lady's hobby is driving scammers nuts and wasting their money in the process. She tickles my revenge fantasy neurons:

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Jeff Wisnia

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