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Wait-wait, dont sell the HF (high voltage maker) if you expect to get a
Miller Dialarc 250 AC/DC. If the Miller you get doesnt already have a HF in
it, you could certainly build a good TIG with a stick welder that includes
remote current control.
Earlier I was identifying the characteristic of TIG where it is possible
to scratch start an arc with the Tungsten and it will remain an arc with DC.
That wont work with AC.
Jerry
Thanks. For tig welding with it, though, I still need an arc stabilizer
and gas and gun etc, those would qualify as "addons", right?
The one I am eyeing does not have HF mentioned anywhere on it...
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I did a little googling. The Heliweld Arc Stabilizer is defintely an
HF unit sold by Airco. With that and a Dialarc 250 you should
be able to do some very nice TIG welding both on steel and aluminum.
Indeed. In fact, Ive personally turned away a number of Tig machines
over the last couple months, simply because I dont need any more than
the 3 that I now own..the most expensive was $300.
They are out there, in growing numbers as the inverter based hip slick
and cool machines start taking over the market and the older, bigger
and heavier transformer based machines are retired, not because they
dont work..but because they are simply older, bigger and heavier.
Never overlook your local welding machine repair shop. They often get
machines in for repair that had only a few things wrong with them,
cheaply fixed, but the owners decided to buy a new machine and
abandonded them. One of the posters here got two of them for $100
after I gave him a heads up. Another Miller Dialarc 250HF was for
sale for $150 at a machine tool dealer. Reliable tool had a complete
but filthy one, cooler, torches and bottles that went out the door for
$150, simply because it was too nastly looking to put up on their
auction site. And it worked perfectly. I tested it.
They are out there, ya just have to look for em.
Gunner, who finally dialed in his absolutely mint Airco PulseArc 350
MIG welder and got it running beautifly on his 5hp rotary phase
converter, this weekend. (swapped for) and its sitting next to his
absolutely mint Airco Squarewave 300 Tig (came with Bernard cooler,
cart, hoses, torch, stick setup and bottle) (swapped) and on the other
side of the welding table (which is over the Miller Dialarc 300 stick
machine ($50), the DanMig 200 Mig (gift) and opposite the Lincoln Tig
250/250 which was the worst deal as it cost him $150 and two Simpson
260s (from a welding machine repair shop) and also was complete with
torches and stick, and two busted Lincoln Magnum coolers which he made
into one good one.
That is one of the best rock solid stick welders ever made. AC/DC
They made a HF version which had TIG capabilities built into the same
box,
The stock DialArc has been a mainstay in California school shops
simply because they were so hard to kill.
Gunner
I store mine under the welding table, outdoors. But ...I think Id tarp
yours if I were you. Or better yet, slide it under a work bench. Its
not all that long. A simple low cart with casters will make it easy to
slide in and out, and can be used from under the bench handily.
Gunner
Frankly..its better to simply show up and chat with the owner or
manager. Often times over the phone they will blow you off. When you
show up and tell em you are a newbie looking to get into tig/welding,
they will generally go a bit farther in thinking about what machines
over yonder in the scrap pile were easily fixed etc.
just a heads up. And you add another face to your "network"
Gunner
I basically have very limited space in my garage. I made a bench on
wheels yesterday, which I will use for grinding. I will have a 1/2HP
baldor grinder, little wet wheel sharpenet, and a chop saw on it. Made
out of old kitchen cabinet and wheels from a demolished UPS. The idea
is that since grinding is dirty, I could pull out the grinding
bench/cart outside and do my grinding outdoors without contaminating
the garage with crap. It will be healthier too.
I cannot have many such carts in my garage basically, without being
ridiculous. Plus, welding is healthier outdoors. Hence my question
about outdoor storage. I could make some doghouse for the welder also.
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If you intend to weld outdoors, you might want to re-consider
investigating in a TIG welder.
For example, what would you be welding that a stick/buzzbox wouldnt weld?
TIG sure doesnt like wind. TIG really likes Very Clean metal. The
electronics in the TIG doesnt like water.
Then there is the price of a buzzbox compared to a TIG. The TIG even
requires the bottles plus gas plus special rod.
My advice would be for you to wait till you really need the TIG, and use a
buzzbox till then. You could store a buzzbox in a trash can if there isnt
room for it in a corner of the garage.
I know, thats enough BS from me. You do what ever is best for you.
Jerry
Oh oh...time to scrounge a Shop. One of those 8x20 or 8x 40 SeaTrain
containers will make a great shop. Mil-surp too
A doghouse would be best then. I dont think it will survive being out
in the open. Here..average rainfall per YEAR is around 4"(inches)
Oh..btw..I scrounged up 6 Lincoln "LinConditioners" last week. They
look like shop vacs. with a big ceramic filter thingy bobby inside and
are used to suck in welding smoke, and exhaust clean(er) air.
All work just hunky dory if anyone needs one, and I have the owners
manuals (copies)
Gunner
No thanks Gunner, I dont really mind making a smoky mess in the garage.
But, have you been talkng to my wife?? She really doesnt like the messes
I make.
Jerry
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