OT disgusted with all presidential candidates

Of all recent presidents, starting with Clinton, I only liked Barack Obama and still do. A great president, very laid back and did not start any wars and did not mess up much.

That said, all current candidates for president, starting from Hillary and ending with Carly, and everyone in between, just make me want to throw up. Very stupid, pompous, self absorbed people who, to date, have not even said anything original.

I am curious if anyone else feels this way.

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Ignoramus6359
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It doesn't matter, any bets that ISIS follows through with it's threat to smuggle a nuke into the US...thanks to Obammy's refusal to do anything to the people he was raised with? It'll probably be done by ex-Gitmo scum that Obammy let go.

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Tom Gardner

And it can be just a dirty bomb - TNT or plastic explodes Radioactivity around.

The only hope is the Rad testers in the ports.

Mart> >> I'm pulling for Chris Crisco and Governor Oops. I want to see the two

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Martin Eastburn

A dirty bomb is a non-event, it is significant only because people agree to talk about it and fear it.

A fire of a big enough pile of used tires, which abound, causes more damage than a nuclear dirty bomb.

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Ignoramus6359

You, sir, _must_ be blind or totally in denial. Obama continues to tear this country down and belittle it in the eyes of every other country in the world. Wake up, Ig! You're smarter than that.

Yes, everyone on every side, all bought and paid for. I have voted in every single election available to me since turning

  1. It gets harder and harder to do so every year, given the ghastly asses turning themselves out to be elected. Ross Perot could have turned this country around, back to its roots. We almost did that in
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Larry Jaques

I'm puzzled that you think the current POTUS is any different from the current candidates.

I feel the next POTUS has already been selected and the election is another Potemkin election.

David

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David R. Birch

It's about equal to the cnance that Gunner and Larry's "Cullers" will rise up from the tarpaper shacks of America, and start shooting people.

What do you think is wrong with Hawaiians?

Al-Baghdadi was released in 2004.

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Ed Huntress

He may be a decent, personable man but he hasn't become the strong, persuasive, decisive and effective leader a large nation so entwined in global affairs needs. It's sad for us that Putin is a better example of one. A leader has to be absolutely cocksure-confident in order to make decisions that will unavoidably hurt some people, without knowing all the facts. Otherwise you have Jimmy Carter.

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"As act 2 gets underway good Kirk is growing weak and losing the ability to lead, and we enter into a great exploration of humanity: man's duality of nature. Kirk is split between yin and yang, masculine and feminine, base and nobility, and he finds that neither side can function without the other. A bold move for a 1966 television series to openly acknowledged that hostility, lust, and violent nature are essential qualities in a leader."

If Kerensky had made better decisions Russia wouldn't have fallen to Lenin and his Bolsheviks.

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"The dilemma of whether to withdraw [from WW1] was a great one, and Kerensky's inconsistent and impractical policies further destabilised the army and the country at large.

Obama's "line in the sand" turned out to be a trail of urine marking our retreat.

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George Patton's and Erwin Rommel's books are interesting insights into the supremely self-confident personality of effective leaders. I wouldn't want either of them as a neighbor, or President. General James Gavin, postwar US commander in divided Berlin, wrote that he was the only person Marshall Zhukov got along well with, because all the other Russians feared he'd have them shot.

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Grant later became a notably ineffectual President.

-jsw

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Jim Wilkins

Good post and an accurate representation of the current situation Wilkins.

Thanks.

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Garrett Fulton

I agree. One thing that the Obama presidency seems to have settled is the question of whether the rest of the world values peace and our idea of "liberty" over avoiding national dependency and humiliation. The answer appears to be no.

The question really came to a head under Bush, but Obama, taking a more cooperative and respectful approach, proved that it can't be reconciled with wishful thinking anymore than Bush was able to do it by imposing our ideas of "good" and "evil" with bombs and bullets.

This doesn't portend well for Rand Paul's isolationist posturing. Some of the wisest Brit statesmen told us decades ago, after the USSR collapsed, that we're in for the same mess that they went through for most of a century: impose a peace through strength, with the rest of the world growing to hate you more as time goes on, or stand back and watch the tyrants drive the world into hell.

It's an ugly choice.

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Ed Huntress

Just to stir the pot a little... This is from a recent thread on rec.crafts.metalworking: ABC News > Home > Health Too Much Praise Can Turn Your Kids Into Narcissistic Jerks, Study Finds

but some degree of narcissism (quantity carefully left unspecified) seems to correlate with leadership:

All I need is a stage to shine: Narcissists' leader emergence and performance

Narcissistic CEOs and executive compensation

Enjoy...

Frank McKenney

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Frnak McKenney

Here's the best summary I've seen in a while. From _The Economist_:

"A dangerous modesty"

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Ed Huntress

I am convinced that $15 minimum wage is a disaster for cities that adopt them, because it will decimate low income communities through unemployment and crime.

I am very interested in what happend to Los Angeles a few years after their new minimum wage goes into effect.

Generally, robots will replace low income people anywhere, but not as fast as where a high minimum wage is adopted.

After all, a robot can flip burgers pretty well!

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Ignoramus26399

If a robot can flip burgers, it won't make a damned bit of difference what humans are making in wages. They're done, whether it's in five years or five years and six months.

Nothing, absolutely nothing, will stop automation. And what wages are being paid has nothing to do with it. The technology has it's own pace.

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Ed Huntress

And very precisely , every burger exactly 1.456 miuntes per side .

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Terry Coombs

The difference is much greater, but in the end, yes, no one needs people flipping burgers and complaining about stuff.

Who will buy those burgers is a completely irrelevant question. The society will find the answer.

While it is true, generally even in the medium run you will see employment decimated.

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Ignoramus26399

The robot also does not complain, and does not need health insurance.

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Ignoramus26399

Already being tested and adopted in some places. When you look at it burgers, tacos, pizza, are all easy to deal with in automation. Added benefits are consistency of product and appearance. Both of which help with the bottom line.

One company is installing fully automated pizza vending machines, that make the dough from scratch and add whichever toppings you want from a touch screen menu. Go to many large cities and other countries and they have entire convenience areas that are vending machines, many with no real limits on what is sold.

A lot of folks slam Wal~Mart as being a bad retailer. Take a look past the stores at the warehousing and you will find that they employ a LOT of people to do a job that could easily be automated. It will be interesting with all the new costs and taxes that have been passed but haven't hit yet, what it will do to that system. Especially when those are not minimum wage positions.

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Steve W.

Pay scale is not a factor in deciding which jobs will be done by a computer. A computer is a perfect slave. Feed it the required amount of boring food (electricity) and it will work 24 / 7 until it dies. The computer never wants time off to be with it's family. If your job can be done by a computer then it will be done by a computer.

Does anybody remember a good paying job called "typesetting" that was done at a place called a "newspaper"? There are still a few newspapers around but they will all disappear in due time.

I remember draftsmen who were very good at drawing blueprints with pen, ink, and paper. Is there a school left in the country that teaches making blueprints that way?

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nobody

Be reminded that one company's employees are another company's customers.

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F. George McDuffee

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