PTC ProDesktop

I've got the zipped downloaded file, but it's 33 Megs in size, and the .cab file inside it is 28 megs. I don't have enough storage space at my ISP to put it up there for you. Best if I put it on a CD and mail it to you.

If you wanna try that, e-mail me.

Jeff

Jeff, if you want to share a file with someone, you can set your home or shop PC up to do that with a simple free little program. If you are interested, you can read about it and download it here:

It is made for sharing web pages, but it works fine for downloading too. Just put a blank index.htm file in whatever folder you want. Put the file to download in there, and start the program. It will tell you your IP address. your download link would then be (made up IP address) http://244.244.244.244/filename.zip or whatever the file is. It only allows access to the files that are in the folder you designate, so it is very safe.

Chris

Thanks, that's an interesting one to know about. I took a quick look at it.

I'm using Comcast for my ISP, and I've got a feeling my IP addie may change to one of several different possibilities each time I connect.

If so, that sounds like it could present as problem in letting the recipient know what IP addie to use when they get around to wanting to download the file.

Also, I've got a router here sharing the connection with a couple of computers, and it looks like that "Simple Server" is reporting the router's address (192.168.1.100), and from what little I know about this stuff, I'm betting that isn't the addie to give to the folks who want to pull a file.

I can look at the router and it will give me a WAN IP addie (24.147.191.149 at this moment.) which is probably the one I'd give to the worls. Perhaps if I didn't shut things off there'd be up to 24 hours before the "lease expired", and maybe the WAN IP addie won't change when the lease is renewed? (That I don't know.)

More later, if I learn anything.

Jeff

OK, I'm giving That AnalogX "Simple Server" a try now that I'm at the office.

So, "Mike in BC", see if you can download Pro Desktop Express from this location:

http://169.254.160.200/prodexpress_en.zip My "server" should be on line for the next 6 or 7 hours today.

Someone lemee know if it works please,

Jeff

It did not for me (Tue Aug 10 21:59:29 EDT 2004). I can't even ping it.

Many ISPs actively try to discourage this sort of thing, because backdoors set up by virii are used as servers for parts of the next virus, or for URLs for spamed sites.

Good Luck, DoN.

On 10 Aug 2004 22:01:17 -0400, snipped-for-privacy@d-and-d.com (DoN. Nichols) calmly ranted:

I woke up way early this morning (3:30am) and found my computer turned on. I had shut it down about 7pm last evening and it had turned itself back on, so I held the on switch in for a minute and it shut down. It evidently restarted in the night, because I checked it again an hour later and it was OFF. Are there any virii/backdoor bots which are doing this? NAV reports "all clear", and it updated itself yesterday morning.

Though I use OE, I turned off the preview panel the day I got it set up and open strange emails with a programmer's text editor to check them if they look potentially valid.

Any auto-startup bots out there?

Larry Jaques wrote: [snip]

Ways to auto-start a PC I can think of are a BIOS timer, Wake On Lan (responds to a special network packet) and Wake On Ring (responds when the modem tells it there is a call). In all the machines I've seen these are enabled and disabled through the BIOS, so that's where to check. When the machine is off (or in standby) the OS isn't running, so I doubt the problem lies there. BIOSes are sufficiently varied that a bot which attacked them in that way, while not impossible, is distinctly non-trivial. I've not heard of one.

Tim

How sure? Could a short duration power failure have re-started it?

Ted

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 20:38:32 GMT, Ted Edwards calmly ranted:

It's on a UPS and gets hit all the time, so I don't think so. Very strange. The Spy prog also caught a copy of Vx2 but I'm pretty sure it hadn't been opened, just brought in with a false .scr file from a binary furniture newsgroup. NAV screams at those immediately. I'm exceedingly skittish after my CC number was stolen last month. The $1,300 in bogus fees were reversed the next day by my bank.

-- Friends Don't Let Friends Eat Turkey and Drive --

I agree that a power glitch could have done it, if it were in standby mode. They could be set up for emergency shutdown with an UPS before the battery charge runs out, (and the UPS is shut down after that). Once power returns, the UPS starts producing power again, and the machine (depending on the switch) could restart from that.

I make it a practice with my one Windows machine (not to be confused with the large number of unix machines, which run full time) to have it plugged into an outlet (surge suppressor) strip, along with the scanner, the monitor, and the ethernet hub for that room. After the machine shuts down, I then turn off the outlet strip, so it is all powered down. And during this time of the year, I also disconnect the AUI cable from the hub, so a lightning strike is less likely to take out my networking, as everything else is run from a good UPS with power isolation, so the networking is less threatened. (Yes, I *have* had lightning take out the network interface on my previous windows box, plus the serial port (connected to a weather monitor), and a couple of network parts at my primary computers.

However -- are there any others in the house who might use the computer -- perhaps without asking you?

The real test is to unplug it -- both from the power outlet and from whatever potential net connection you have. If you find it running a bit later, then it is time to set up hidden cameras to determine who is turning it on.

Another thought -- some Intel computers are set up for IR keyboards and mice. Is it possible that a remote control for a TV, VCR, or something similar might generate a code close enough to a keyboard code to cause it to turn on? Tape some aluminum foil over the window for the IR sensor, if you consider this to be possible.

Good Luck, DoN.

-- Friends Don't Let Friends Run Windoze --

Ted

On 13 Aug 2004 00:32:48 -0400, snipped-for-privacy@d-and-d.com (DoN. Nichols) calmly ranted:

I checked it at 5, 15, 30 minutes and 2 hours later. The PS fan was off and no lights were on.

I used the "toe on the power button for 10 seconds" shutdown. I've never heard the power supply fan going with it in standby mode, so it appeared to be dead.

We don't get much lightning in the valley here, and I'm on a sat modem, so it's pretty much isolated as well. The entire system is on a TrippLite Internet Office UPS, so that isolates, too. The daily power glitches turn off lights but the computer is rock solid for about 10 minutes with the UPS. I have unplugged the modem for the past couple nights just in case it wanted to turn on and call home, but it remains off when I turn it off now.

I'm single and living alone, so unless the ghosts...

Time for the Ghostbusters, eh?

My laptop has an IR sender and the HP5P has a receiver, but the computer isn't set up for IR at all. Scratch that one, too. Thanks for the dialog.

I'll query Starband about the adware sitch. They gave me their rendition of IE-6, and a download/forced reinstall from MS hasn't rid me of the "better internet" popups. What a bear!

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Comprehensive Website Development

Jeff,

169.254.0.0 - 165.254.255.255 are "Link Local" addresses and are not globally routable. For a list of all Special Use IPv4 addresses refer to RFC 3330:

In other words, you cannot run a server on a host numbered with one of these addresses.

I hope this helps.

-- Dan

Pardon my typo. I meant 169.254.0.0 - 169.254.255.255.

Thanks Dan..

I'm not sure I want to go through the entire learning process right now since the need to send very large files doesn't come up in my activities very often.

I already sent the OP (and another lurker who asked me for one) a copy of what he wanted burned onto a CD .... by USPS, as we gotta make sure our hired hands there still have something to do in this internet age.

Plus, that link to:

posted on this thread looks like it'd be the 'cat's ass' for sending large files to someone occassionally.

From what I've found out in the past few daze I think I'd have to learn more about setting up port forwarding in the Linksys router, all of which would probably be a 'long run for a short slide' in the instant case.

Jeff

On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 19:30:33 -0700, Larry Jaques calmly ranted:

Well, I finally found the culprit for the adware. It was the twaintec.dll trojan. I'm going to ask NAV techies for their explanation of why NAV didn't catch it.

Once in a blue moon, I select several spams to delete and click the mouse button too fast, opening them. That must be the way it got on my system in the first place. But why didn't Spy Cleaner, AdAware6, or NAV ever catch it? Grrrr...

To repair it, I went to Win2k Safe Mode, opened a DOS window, opened the documents\user\local settings\temp dir and deleted "twaintec.dll", then deleted the twaintec directory in the same dir: "THI1931.tmp"

It appears to be gone, and MSIE6 opens only one instance at a time now. Whew!

I didn't see a single word there that I wrote. Mind you, since you are running Windoze, anything can happen.

Ted

On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 18:54:17 GMT, Ted Edwards calmly ranted:

You missed the blatant "-snip-" entirely, didja?

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Website Application Programming

I didn't write that either. ;-)

Ted