I just did a Buy it now on an acme fishtail gage. Paypal wants me to give them
the
expiration date on my credit card and I'm declining. Two days ago, no problem,
they just
debited checking like I intended. Today, I bought another item and declined
again to
update my credit card info (new card) and I get this message.
eBay Buyer Protection Your purchase is covered by eBay Buyer Protection. Learn
more
about Ebay buyer Protection - opens in a new window or tab
Your payment for US $27.50 is being processed and is expected to clear by
Jul-08-10.
Remember, your item will be shipped after the seller receives payment. You will
receive an
email receipt shortly.
What kind of crap are they pulling now?
Wes
On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 15:32:58 -0400, Wes
wrote the following:
ALL credit card processors need the expiration date to process a
payment. (How else will they know if the card is any good? Duh.)
Why are you suddenly declining to give _required_ info, Wes?
receive an
Was the gage purchase $27.50?
--
It's also helpful to realize that this very body that we have, that's
sitting right here right now, with its aches and its pleasures, is
exactly what we need to be fully human, fully awake, fully alive.
-- Pema Chodron
problem, they just
My primary account is checking. The card is a backup.
Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller
problem, they just
Read this:
Your eCheck payment is in progress
Thanks for using PayPal. The estimated completion is 7/8/2010-7/12/2010. We
advise sellers
not to ship items until they receive payment. Make an instant bank payment and
get your
item(s) faster by logging in to your PayPal account and adding a credit card.
I *thought* the banks were supposed to decline charges that didn't have funds
behind them
due to recent changes in banking laws. IOW, they do the ACH and get the money,
the deal
is done. Damn I wish there was a decent alternative to ebay/paypal.
What I'm getting out of this is they are going to deliberately screw up my
payments to get
me to give them credit card info for a card that will never be used opening one
more
security hole in my financial profile to hacking.
Wes
On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 11:44:02 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote the following:
problem, they just
Yeah, I guess it was, Pete. I had missed "checking.". ;)
It is likely that Wes will have to remove the CC completely so it
doesn't prompt him for it every time.
Just coming from the PP site, I see that they're boasting of 221+
million users worldwide. That's BIG!
--
It's also helpful to realize that this very body that we have, that's
sitting right here right now, with its aches and its pleasures, is
exactly what we need to be fully human, fully awake, fully alive.
-- Pema Chodron
problem, they just
declined again to
advise sellers
behind them
payments to get
Use value limited one time use credit card numbers. Typically takes just
a minute or two to generate such a number on your banks web site.
On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 17:14:58 -0400, Wes
wrote the following:
problem, they just
advise sellers
I just told my bank that I never want them to do the old "cover the
bounced nineteen cent check for ONLY $37 with a maximum of 3 such
charges per DAY" thingy with me. I'll manage my account so I never
rubberize a check, thanks.
payments to get
Maybe they're getting too many bounced transactions from checking
accounts lately and they're covering their asses right now. Dunno.
You need to remove the backup or they'll continue to haunt you for the
missing info. My bank has caught hacked info twice. Once the same
day, the other the day after. Both times they have called me to ask if
I made a purchase to so and so (Fifi's Boutique purchases ain't likely
by me, TYVM), I've said "Absolutely not!" twice, and it has been fixed
that same day twice. No worries, mate. Stats say that you're more
likely to be hacked by the waitress (or busboy) at the local
restaurant than online. (I think I read that in a newspaper, or maybe
on the Internet, so it can't possibly be untrue.)
--
It's also helpful to realize that this very body that we have, that's
sitting right here right now, with its aches and its pleasures, is
exactly what we need to be fully human, fully awake, fully alive.
-- Pema Chodron
Got another message today:
Hello name deleted,
We removed a debit or credit card from your PayPal account because it is no
longer valid.
It's easy to add a new card and avoid hassles the next time you want to send a
payment:
Log in to your PayPal account.
Go to your Profile at the top of the page and click "Credit/Debit Cards."
Click Add to link a new card to your account.
Thanks,
PayPal
The other trick they pulled is:
Hello name deleted,
You have successfully cancelled your subscription to Yearly subscription
to Gun Rights Radio Network
You will not be billed for this subscription again.
-----------------------------------
Cancellation Details
-----------------------------------
Cancellation Date: Jul. 7, 2010
Subscription Name: Yearly subscription to Gun Rights Radio Network
I didn't cancel my subscription, they did.
What a bunch of thugs.
Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller
no longer valid.
end a payment:
Did you pay for the subscription with you now-expired (as far as they
know) credit card? If so, where's the mystery? They can't
automatically make an ACH transaction without your permission, which
you have not yet given.
I have a debit card attached to my Paypal account. The debit card
draws from the same checking account that Paypal uses as the primary.
In other words, whether Paypal takes funds from my checking account or
debit card, it all comes from the same place. I never keep more than I
can afford to be without in that account. Each account that my wife
and I maintain in that bank is titled differently to avoid potential
problems with "right of offset" transfers between accounts if any
account gets hacked.
The checking account is primary. Maybe I'm missing something.
Nope, I just looked again, my checking account is listed as primary confirmed.
Cheapest
way to do a transaction as far as I know. That is the way my mortgage company
wants it's
online payments.
I've never defaulted on a payment or asked for modifications in my life. Even
after being
out of work for 8 months. I gotta admit, that was getting down to the oh my
God, what am
I going to do point when I secured a crappy job followed by a better job.
Amazing how
once someone wants you, others do too. ;)
Wes
longer valid.
There is an idea, I'm going to give them the debit card linked to the the
checking account
and see what happens next.
Wow, these idiots seem happy atm. Walmart and Meijer have figured out my debit
card is a
debit card and won't run it as a credit transaction that costs them more and
Chase gives
me a small bribe for doing so.
Time will tell on this on.
On a metalworking topic, my Phase II BXA post will show up tomorrow.
I spent the last half of my day with a gent from Etamic trying to solve an issue
with our
automated airgage system that feeds wear data to two ZT2500Y's (Mori's) that are
serviced
by a Fanuc robot on a rail. Inside this beast resides a galil 1720 motion
control. I
made some xy devices a long time ago using galil 720 controls to run crossed
Thompson
slides with ball screws to lay down hot melt adhesive to edge fold rear package
trays back
around 199x. I think it was that period, I was communicating with Jacob Tal
using a
compuserve account and modem then. I found an issue with a interrupt input
instruction. A
few roms and trials and that was eventually corrected.
The instruction set has increased but it was nice watching their tech
troubleshoot and
actually be able to understand parts of the program. What sucked is today was
the hottest
day in years in the plant. I haven't pee'd yet and I've been home for a few
hours.
Thankfully, tomorrow is the last day of the week for me, stay in town for a gun
club board
meeting and have a three day weekend.
Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller
On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 20:23:50 -0400, Wes
wrote the following:
They saved you the effort. OK.
WTF? How can they do that? It's a free subscription and Apple iTunes
isn't owned by eBay, is it? Unless you used that CC to secure your
subscription and it caught up to you when it expired.
Are you sure something else isn't happening, Wes, like your identity
being hacked? If I were you, I'd look into that deeply and
immediately.
--
It's also helpful to realize that this very body that we have, that's
sitting right here right now, with its aches and its pleasures, is
exactly what we need to be fully human, fully awake, fully alive.
-- Pema Chodron
trays back
instruction. A
Galil is a class act. I've had a number of phone conversations with
Dr. Tal when calling for tech support or application advice. The two
other support techs I remember from the early 90s are both still with
Galil.
That's one of the nicest things about Galil's controllers -- the stuff
you learned 20 years ago still works -- TP means Tell Position after
all these years.
It was comfortable here today, but yesterday was the hottest I've seen
it here on the ME coast. It was only 94, but I can't remember the last
time it was over 90. I was glad I was not at my customer's plant
though. The project I'm working on gets installed soon on a hot
rolling mill. The ingots come out of the furnaces at 2600F.
On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 04:57:09 -0400, Wes
wrote the following:
So they're not really thugs after all, are they?
--
It's also helpful to realize that this very body that we have, that's
sitting right here right now, with its aches and its pleasures, is
exactly what we need to be fully human, fully awake, fully alive.
-- Pema Chodron
It is looking that way, I'm going to search my email over the weekend in case I
blew off a
paypal message maybe asking for an okay to send a renewal.
Sep 8, 2009 is when I started the yearly subscription. Today is 30 days from
renewal.
Right now I'm going for thuggish. I see my payment for the acme gage cleared
today after
I have them my debit card number that is linked to my checking account that they
are
supposed to use in the first place.
I'll just send Mark Vandenburg, that runs the gun rights radio network, a check
next month
and give paypal the tall finger.
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To give some metalworking content to this, Mark is a CNC operator, maybe a
machinist,
running automated machines working for a firm that makes automotive parts. Now
to toss
out some red meat, he was mentioning on the podcast I listened to today, on the
way to the
club for a meeting, Indiana has a law that prohibits companies from stopping CCW
holders
from having a firearm in a POV parked in the lot. Firearm must be out of sight
and
secured while parked on company premises. Something common sense in my humble
opinion.
I'd like to see that law make it to Michigan. Actually, I wish we didn't need
such a law
(libertarian streak)
Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller
On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 22:58:27 -0400, Wes
wrote the following:
blew off a
Having a backup payment method makes them more at ease. I can't
criticize that.
next month
There ya go.
way to the
Agreed!
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