How much would you pay for a robot?

Suppose a robot were available that had:
2 wheel oppsed drive with 3rd castor with PWM/PID motor control 801.11G Wireless ethernet
1 computer with a capacity of 4 (for computation) Computers are networked locally and are clustered (when more than one) The main computer boots off hard disk, the additional computers boot off the internally networked main system. Stereo video cameras USB2 or NTSC with capture? Built in RF keyboard/mouse Built in LCD display Sealed gel-type lead acid batteries standard, but NiMH optional. Built in battery charger and charger station. 24 bits digital I/O 2 analog inputs, 4 analog outputs (2 used for motor control) 20~30 pound payload capacity
What's it worth?
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What computer does it have?
Does it come with software? Is it a devlopment "base" or a finished product?
If everything is put together well, I'd pay $1000.
motors 100 base/chassis 50 motor control 100 cameras 100 lcd display 100 battery charger 100 battery 100 I/O electronics 100 kbd/mouse 50
there's my .02 * 50000
Rich
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snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

I would use a mini or nano ITX board, but have slots for three more.

It would come pre-loaded and ready to boot. Manual control and a good usable set of libraries.

What would a "finished product" be in this context?

Hmm, that doesn't allow much overhead.

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At this point, with my current income, $1500 would be the top price I would pay and I would have to be very impressed with the design.
Rich
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snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

As I've been corresponding on this board, it has been crossing my mind, "I wonder if I can sell any of this?" (About the things I am doing)
Just a curiosity, but if I could bring about such a system for $500~$1000 you think you would by it? :)
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mlw wrote:

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And what degree of expertise would be required in electronics and programming to use the above using what language and what OS?
I think for a simple robot to do your mail delivery idea the above is a major overkill. Like using a bulldozer to plant a daisy :) I think Rich does something like that already using his clunky Apple computer, sonar and 128k memory Basic and assembler.
John
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Clunky? :-)
hah.
I put about $200 into it, but nobody would ever buy it.
It is a nice pet though. It makes family and friends say OOOOH and Ahhhh, and robotics and CS people say "Why?" and "you are wasting your talents"
Rich
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snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

You just have to get with the program Rich and buy a PC :)
Did you know that a modern PC can run a Basic interpreter program faster than an assembler version on the old machines?
John
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I have all of my software running in C on the PC. It is unimpressive to me. Yes, an interpreter is faster on a PC than assembly on 1mhz 6502.
A robotics friend is converting my C into windows c++ with nice GUI.
Rich
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Does anyone know where I could get a remote robot with stereo vision? Just one that you could run from a PC? Is this pretty advanced at the moment? I wouldn't think it would be too hard to create. Has anone done so? I checked out those cye robots but they're over 2 grand and only have one camera. They're demo is pretty sweet though.
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JGCASEY wrote:

I was thinking Linux (That should be obvious to anyone who's read any of my posts :-)
It should boot up, and run out of the box. A joystick application with video.
The AI is up to you.

A really big daisy :-)
Seriously, as an experimental platform, or even your home computer, I guess.

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mlw wrote:

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of my

You know a lot of nifty robots have no OS. Some years ago someone had a little robot that used vision to run out and collect tennis balls. It think he wrote up an article on it for the Seattle ENCODER.

with
Darn, I knew there would be a catch :)
It reminds me of the old sales ploy of "it is only limited by your imagination". What a terrible limitation, it really made their product useless.

:)
guess.
Apple
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JGCASEY wrote:

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I'm new to robotics and have been looking into a system like this so I can get into computer vision without spending the time on putting my own robot together. Though it would be cool, I don't have the time right now. I've been looking at the <a href="http://www.evolution.com/er1 /">ER1</a> from Evolution for 700 bucks. It seems to offer a lot of the same stuff that yours does. Yours may not have a bunch of ready computer vision software, the sleek looks, or a gripper, but you don't require a laptop.
I'm new to robotics, but I think it would be cooler, if you didn't include the mounted computers on the robot. If you just used a microcontroller and the wireless connection, wouldn't it be possible to run everything remotely? This would save power and space on the robot and would probably cost a lot less as well. I'd pay $500+ for a system like that.
JGCASEY wrote:

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Cool idea, but with 4 computers processing away youd need about 10 amps minimum, plus ancillaries, plus motors. to have a 30-40 pound payload youd need some largish motors. I could see a battery lasting maybe a half hour at most without being so large that your payload would be reduced dramatically, or youd need bigger motors, which in turn draws more current.
But...for soemthing like that in a semi-finished form, that could do all that's said...hmm..maybe 500-800 dollars.
If you used embedded linux, you could get away with alot more with less power consumption and space, but the boards are a tad spensive, which would up the price.
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I'm new to robotics and have been looking into a system like this so I can get into computer vision without spending the time on putting my own robot together. Though it would be cool, I don't have the time right now. I've been looking at the ER1 from Evolution for 700 bucks. (http://www.evolution.com/er1 /) It seems to offer a lot of the same stuff that yours does. Yours may not have a bunch of ready computer vision software, the sleek
looks, or a gripper, but you don't require a laptop.
I'm new to robotics, but I think it would be cooler, if you didn't include the mounted computers on the robot. If you just used a microcontroller and the wireless connection, wouldn't it be possible to
run everything remotely? This would save power and space on the robot and would probably cost a lot less as well. I'd pay $500+ for a system
like that.
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godavemon wrote: godavemon wrote:

http://www.evolution.com/er1 /

Yes I think that makes sense and have said as much in previous posts. Why not use the cheap power of a modern computer and take the weight of the mobile part.
Wireless keyboards, mice, screens, internet connection is common place why not a wireless robot base?
Have you seen cybert?
http://www.pioneernet.net/johnc/cybert.htm

John
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It would probably cost somewhere between $500 and $1000 to put that together on the retail market, assuming, of course, your time is worthless.

Since it doesn't really do anything, not even that much. ;-)
    Mark
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Mark VandeWettering wrote:

Well, what does it need to do?

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Mark VandeWettering wrote:

I agree that the "A.I. is up to you" being a problem.
In my mind, the most reasonable thing you can pre-package the robot to do is be a vacuum cleaner. Essentially a hackable and expandable roomba.
Joe Dunfee
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