Are hybrids always HPR?

Doug, I was trying to confirm the NAR L1 requirement you mention, but the all I found on the NAR website was:

Certification for high power rocketry consists of three progressive levels:

a.. Level 1 allows the purchase and use of H and I impulse class motors. Certain F and G motors may also require Level 1 certification for purchase and use.

b.. Level 2 allows the purchase and use of J, K, and L impulse class motors and hybrid rocket motors.

c.. Level 3 certification allows the purchase and use of M, N, and O impulse class rocket motors.

This seem to state that you must be an L2. Or am I misreading/misinterpretting?

In Tripoli's opinion? Nothing.

:)

I tried to extend it down to D's and E's!

Once the rules were screwed so bad it became possible and practical!

Jerry

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The Aerotech "pin valve" tanks are filled by weight before installation, so you would see the full loaded weight with those... for the "UC valve" (RATT, etc.) and Hypertek styles, which are filled on the pad until liquid somes out the vent port, the oxidizer load is determined by the capacity of the tank and the layout of the vent plumbing, so what you would want would be a reference chart showing how many grams of nitrous it takes to fill each style and size.

-dave w

Isn't a picture a form of art, and as such, subjective in substance in the eye of the beholder?

Fred

Yes. Some choose to look at it from a myopic point of view.

When it comes to Jerry and Iz, I have to wonder which one bedaholder.

8-)

Could the be the completion of the Mosaic or is it a new one?

So I take it YOU see nothing wrong with the above snippet of association rules.

No, that's just a vomit stain on the floor.

launched

Kevin,

I just compiled this info today...

It'll be up on the website by the end of the weekend. Thanks for asking!

G63

163g hardware weight 44g reload weight (includes preheater) 56g nitrous @70 deg. Total loaded weight 263g 35g grain weight after burn Recovery weight 198g 9g burned solid propellant. Propellant weight: 65g

G69

196g hardware weight 44g reload weight (includes preheater) 93g nitrous weight @70 deg. Total loaded weight 333g 30g grain weight after burn. Recovery weight 226g 14g burned solid propellant. Propellant weight: 107g

H78

237g hardware weight 44g reload weight (includes preheater) 137g nitrous weight @70 degrees Total loaded weight - 418g 23g grain weight after burn Recovery weight 260g 21g burned solid propellant. Propellant weight: 158g

Todd Moore Sky Ripper Systems.

Doug,

The 'new' rule, as I understand it, allows any 18 year old member to fly a model rocket sized hybrid rocket motor. (No L1 cert required). I take this from the info that Paul Holmes sent out just prior to the certification of the Sky Ripper Systems G motors. Being so new, I can believe this info hasn't been filtered through to the various associations rules website.

If anyone can clarify the official position on this, it would be appreciated.

Your reloads were shipped out two saturdays ago....(April

9th).....Ground USPS is acting really slow on the east coast for whatever reason. :(

I see it as a class of product that was not thought of when the rules were created. I'm sure that in time, the rules that apply will be adjusted for this product. I'm also sure that the volunteers that do this will not do it soon enought for some whiners.

Is he responsive or what?

So he was able to change NFPA-1122 and 1127 in the blink of an eye?

Cool!

Magical!

Or to authorities with criminal prosecution powers based on law on the books.

Ditto.

Doug,

The 'new' rule, as I understand it, allows any 18 year old member to fly a model rocket sized hybrid rocket motor. (No L1 cert required). I take this from the info that Paul Holmes sent out just prior to the certification of the Sky Ripper Systems G motors. Being so new, I can believe this info hasn't been filtered through to the various associations rules website.

If anyone can clarify the official position on this, it would be appreciated.

Your reloads were shipped out two saturdays ago....(April

9th).....Ground USPS is acting really slow on the east coast for whatever reason. :(

But what about "living the lifestyle"?

What "law on the books" are you referring to?

Given the extra complexity of hybrids, plus the requirement for electronic ejection, some sort of user certification is needed. They aren't general consumer products like D12s. Unless/until some seperate hybrid certification level exists, L1 will have to do.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

No motor eject?

:)