Cluster Choice?

I've read up on a few articles / posts that are floating around the net on clustering a FatBoy.

Have narrowed it down to either a 3x24 or (1x24 + 6x18) The 3x24 seems the easiest way and would be quick & fun. Slightly in the lead for choice......

However the 1x24+6x18 has more advantages.

1) I can still fly it on a single D or E motor (Cheap) 2) Can fly it on many different motor combos. (Choice) 3) Could use a timer to airstart 3 of the 18mm. (Cool) 4) More smoke effects at lift-off with all 6x18mm fired up. (Crowd Pleaser)

Out of interest the costs per launch are as follows - (Store prices, no bulk order, no discount, I gotta fly it now prices)

3x24 MMT - 3xE - AU$48.00 3xD - AU$30.00

24 + 6x18 MMT - 1xE+6xC - AU$54.00 1xE+3xC - AU$35.00 1xE - AU$16.00 1xD+6xC - AU$48.00 1xD+3xC - AU$29.00 1xD - AU$10.00 6xC - AU$38.00 3xC - AU$19.00

What would your personal preference be?

Reply to
CJC
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A USR brand 54mm mount is also an Interchange Mount -tm for these:

3x24mm 1x29mm 1x24mm 7x18mm

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

3x24

Quicker build, but also quicker flight preps. A 3 motor cluster is also (probably?) more reliable than a 7 motor shot.

Reply to
Gary

at those prices I'd fly it 10 times on 1x C6-3 and fly to the US with the money I saved and buy more motors, cheap. wow, motors are expensive in Australia!!

Reply to
Cliff Sojourner

Morning CJC, I have a number of (1x24 + 6x18) clusters and they are definitely a crowd pleaser. Best thing if you can fly them on a number of different configurations. 1 C12-3 A8-x (for my rocket weight) this provides a quick burn and low flight. Then again 6 C6-3s & an central E is quite impressive.

-cat

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cat

CJC-

Fat Boys are cheap enough, so buy a few and build ALL OF THEM!!!

...working on a two-stage Fat Boy myself.

Reply to
Vince

I saw some 2 stage fat boy launches last week. They were fun. Clustered boost and single upper.

Jerry

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

Australian currency is less valuable too, by something like 1/3+.

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

I'd go with the 6x18mm + 1x24mm. It fits *really* well in a BT-80, especially if you bring 3x0.125" thick plywood fins to the 24mm motor mount. That's how my "Mongol Horde" is built. I have been very successful launching it on a D12-5 or D12-7, and three each of C6-5 and C6-7 motors. I almost always get all 7 to light, but occasionally get only 6.

The reason for the mixed delays? A 5-second delay is just about perfect, but having 7 ejection charges going off at once is a "bad thing" in a tube this thin. Even with the extra-long delays on about half the motors, I still made sure to coat the inside of the tube with thin CA for durability. Despite these precautions, I still get paint bubbling on occasion at the forward end of the motor mount.

Have fun!

- Rick "Estes F power, and launchable with Notification" Dickinson

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Rick Dickinson

Just had my first experience with that. Paid $41 US to get a product from OZ, instead of 70-80 to buy it here in the USA. Shipping was only $4 Aus. And that's for something made in Europe! Only difference from what I bought here was the package specs were in KG instead of LBS.

I've bought several region 1 DVDs from Canada for less than the US prices, but just bought a Canadian DVD from Florida to get the best price on it!

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

Reply to
Bob Kaplow

I too prefer cluster configurations that give flexibility. When I built my Super Ranger, I slightly compromised scale by going with 4x24mm instead of

3x29mm, so I could use either 2 or 4 motors. Plus 24mm motors are much cheaper than 29mm.

My favorite cluster rocket is another NIRA members "D80". He mis-heard someone say G80, and asked "What's a D80?", then built one. It's a cluster of EIGHT A10-3Ts, and takes off in a hugh cloud of fire and smoke. I've got this idea bouncing around my "Round Tuit" list that will be a cluster of 12 A10-3Ts...

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

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Bob Kaplow

I always thought it would be neat to cluster an E9 or F10 with a ring of A10-P's to give a bird that leaps off the pad, then soars gracefully to altitude.

Getting everything lit at the right times is probably the trickiest part.

Reply to
DJ Delorie

Or just use a G8.

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

Good call. It helps. If you're worried about a high number ejections you can use plugged engines in a few or maybe even ca some heavy duty freezer foil to the entire inside of the bt.

Randy

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<randyolb

you mean, an uncertified, illegally manufactured, illegally transported G8?

Reply to
Dave Grayvis

No.

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

Then why did you suggest using a motor that is unavailable or nonexistent?

Reply to
Dave Grayvis

Thanks guys! Ok....here's my current plans for some kits I picked up last week.......

I have just ordered some more 24 & 18mm tubes. LOTS :-) A few couplers, some nylon chutes, more Kevlar line & blankets, all in different sizes..........AND another FatBoy!!!

I thought I had enough tubing left but I've used up most of the left over supplies I have from a few yrs ago. Nice fresh stuff coming :-) I'll follow my usual course of action and ditch the balsa fins and card C-Rings. Replace with ply.

With the peice of 24mm tube I got left........that'll get cut in half & go in the Patriot & a Baby Bertha. I'll knock up an 18mm MMT adapter to use with them aswell.

I have to do both a 3x24 & a 24+6x18 FatBoy. They look so cool in RSim 3D with all dem motors! The 7 motor Fatboy will be the most clustered rocket I've ever done. Gotta keep advancing :-)

I got a free Phoenix kit from the hobby shop with the order... :-) Someone had stolen all the recovery gear & MMT out of it. Crazy man? Has the NC, 2 BT80's, Coupler, Decals, Fins & instructions.

I'll single layer glass it or fill it with couplers and put a 29mm MMT in. May do a 4x24 or 24+4x18 deal. The cluster bug has bitten......sorry...

The Canadian Arrow is getting a 29mm MMT.

Reply to
CJC

I'm sure I read a post somewhere and they cut up a beer can....sorry...coke can...for tube protection..

Reply to
CJC

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