Hobby Rocketry: An Ancient Secret Revealed For Recruitment

Here's one of the most intelligent statements seen on r.m.r. in a long time:

"It is still going to take the local chapters out beating the street inviting people because this is so new to most." -- Bill Eide

Do you want to know how to get people to get involved in hobby rocketry? There's a secret that was used by the ancients when they wanted to recruit people. I am going to reveal it, though I dread what ancient and terrible curse I might experience for spreading the secret on USENET. I will take the terrible risk.

Here is the secret:

If you want to involve people in an activity, invite them to come with you.

I'm not quite clear on why this is a secret. Personally, it seems obvious.

If you want people to launch rockets, invite them personally. Don't just say "Come to a rocket launch some time." It doesn't work very well. Say, instead, "There's a rocket launch on the xth day of the month of Bleen. Would you like to come along with me?" Offer to help them build some small kit so they'll have something to launch.

This works with anyone from age 5 to age 70. I can't personally vouch for it working with anyone outside that age range, although I have heard anecdotal evidence that still works.

While you're at it, you might want to invite some local rocketeers that you haven't seen in a while. Keeping current people involved is always cheaper than recruiting new ones. You'd be amazed at how a simple phone call can make someone feel that they're appreciated.

Zooty

(In no way is this meant to criticize the Discovery Channel effort. That raised public awareness, which is the main purpose of advertising efforts like that. Any people who have come into the hobby directly through those efforts should be thought of as a bonus. If anything, it argues well for the effectiveness of the effort to make people aware of the hobby.)

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zoot
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Someone please break this news to NAR and TRA (in a format they can hear, understand, and internalize it).

Please?

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

I can't count how many small Estes kits I've given away to the people around me to get them to come out to launch with me. I've even given motors to them and only had one come out with me. I feel soon it might work to get more to come out. More so since most of them have called me saying there's a rocket show on tv, did you see it.

John

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a.hornsbyiii

Recruit the kids, and the parents must follow....

Kids are much easier to attract to rocketry than adults who are too "busy" to build and launch rockets. Get the kids interested and the parents will be forced to make time for them.

Want to recruit rocketeers? Do a demonstration at a middle or elementary school. Have one of the great rocket manufacturers or club donate 20 small rockets, and pick the students with the highest grades or even randomly and convince the school to let them spend a day building their rockets and another day flying them. Tell the local paper beforehand. Take lots of pictures for the newspaper.

Now this doesnt do much in the short term for companies focused on large/high power rockets, but for rocketry as a whole, it's planting seeds.

I first became interested in rocketry at school when I was in 3rd grade. I saw a group of 5th graders launching rockets on the basketball court.

We were never invited/allowed to watch or participate. It was another 4 years before I stumbled across an alpha III launcher kit on my own and saved up enough money to buy it (I was 12).

Tom

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nam

I agree, and have been (attempting) to do this for years, but it's getting harder. The big problem is that in today's litigious society, it is almost impossible to get school permission.

I've submitted a request to the NAR (and they are considering it, as I understand it) to allow for some form of 'insurance certificate' to allow for school launches. The problem I've been running into is that the district will no longer simply take the NAR insurance at face value, they want to be a 'named insured'.

If you agree, please (politely and respectfully) let NAR Board members know that you think this is a good idea.

David Erbas-White

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David Erbas-White

I agree - the TV show helps. Rocket Challenge raises the public awareness of rocketry.

It also helps to find a launch date they can attend, and then ask them if they want to go with you to that one.

I figure it's like asking a friend if he or she wants to go to a baseball game I've got tickets for. If the friend says yes, then we go to that game. If he says no, then I find someone else.

I wonder if we should sell tickets to launches. Call it "Festival Seating" and print on the tickets that management assumes no responsibility for injuries.

Zooty

I'm trying to remember the last baseball game I went to where I didn't give first aid until the paramedics showed up. PNC Park is wonderful, but when Barry Bonds hits a line drive foul into the stands near the field, things get interesting. PNC Park is a great place to see great baseball. Unfortunately, when I've been there, it's never the home team that's involved in "great baseball."

1980. St. Louis: Keith Hernandez and Willie Stargell were co-MVPs in the 1979 season. They were both given some kind of award at the game - might have been the first game of the season in St. Louis. I don't remember anyone getting hurt, although (since I was cheering for the Pirates, rotten little b****** that I am) the little kid in front of me broke down in tears. That might have been the last Pirate victory I've ever seen in person, too. Sigh.
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zoot

It helps but isn't a gimme.

I tell them I will provide all launch equipment, the motors for their first

3 flights, after they build the free kit and if they fly with me the first time. One of my sons is a football coach and math teacher at a local high school and we now have a science teacher and 5 star students, launching once a month from the football field. 2 launches so far with more planned. If they'll stick with it for a while, I hope to get a school club started.

It's all small Estes stuff but it's a beginning. : )

Randy

Reply to
Randy

Sure it is. They all know that if they ask me I'll drop what I'm doing to do what ever it is they need, want or what ever. I don't bug them and just ask when I'm going. I've gone out three weekends in a row and two times it was because some one asked me to. Not that I need a reason.

John

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a.hornsbyiii

This seems to work, as our section signed up SIX new members this weekend. A couple members used another little known secret that I'll reveal: they gave rockets as presents to their friends children! Pure (evil) genius.

Regards,

Bob Bernatchez

NAR 29996

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Bob Bernatchez

We did a Scout Pow Wow for the leaders a week ago. Got lots of contacts. Tomorrow evening is the matching show for the Venture Scouts (older kids, used to be Explorers when I was involved). We're hoping to get enough of them to organize an entire rocket program of teenagers. And they already have interest from 2 local private schools. I'm gonna' try and get them interested in TARC while I'm at it.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

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Bob Kaplow

That's whats missing from the flyrockets.com web site: a "Come to a launch" page, like the club and manufacturer pages. Greg, any chance of adding this?

Of course one problem is that for many of us "up north" flying season is rapidly wnding down to the point where we hibernate until spring. I missed last Sundays NIRA launch (sick with a cold), and our next launch is now 5 months away in April. Still, we've got a calendar to let folks know when they can come on out.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

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Bob Kaplow

We fly all 'winter', com'on down. February is notorious for wind, so a jacket is recommended. Sssrocketry got quite a few hits, will be interesting to see if that translates into new faces next month.

Joel. phx

Reply to
Joel Corwith

Giving highschoolers F72-10 motors to go try and break mach with works well too... :-)

Andy

Reply to
Andy Eng

As a kid, I was the "first on my block" to fly rockets. My brother and best friend and I would head out to the vacant open space between my house and the foothills and let em rip.

For reasons I can't recall, we walked over to the local park one day and shot off a couple Astro-ants and Bettle-nauts in my trusty X-Ray. After the first launch, kids started coming over to see, then their parents. By the time we out of motors, there was a group of parents standing around watching and counting down with us and clapping when it took off (they weren't nearly as impressed with the landing as the lift-off; newbies!). Pretty soon, we had an ad-hoc "rocket club" around the neighborhood.

Sanctioned launches are great, but have promotional drawbacks. For instance, my section site is a 45 minute highway drive away. I would submit that even people interested in rockets will not drive to most sanctioned launch sites on their own accord.

But they will walk across the street to a park, or walk over from their picnic, and watch.

Move the mountain; bring rocketry back to the people. Yes, there are issues; I cannot launch modrocs in local parks without a school group permit, for instance (but I'm working on getting a "club" group permit). I know that there are parks where modrocs are still permitted. Schedule a limited launch, or just have one yourself, at a park or rec area CLOSE BY. Invite the Scouts. Make it a picnic as well. Tell the local hobby shops, even if they don't sell rockets, and see if they'll post a launch notice. Hand out a couple of Gnomes, or whatever, with club info in them to those interested. I think more small, demo launches AVAILABLE to the public would generate more participation and recruits than a few sanctioned launch events held in relatively isolated areas.

Easy Access; it's not just a motor type.

FWIW.

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Gary

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Reply to
Jerry Irvine

World's most perfect post.

THIS should be in the FAQ!

Viral marketing is a feature:)

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Jerry Irvine

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