How is it considered released if not mailed?
You keep posting in alt.machines.cnc but you have no connection to
machines, machining or CNC's. You keep posting in comp.cad.solidworks
and if I read your posts correctly you have never used and don't own
SolidWorks. Are you a Siemens shill?
When software companies announce release dates its available, shipped
or on the shelf date, not "released" for production to be shipped at
some later undetermined time (a week or two or three or four).
100x easier/faster eh. Every time someone makes a boast like that
first thing I do is give them one of my parts to draw, one I know how
long it takes and see what happens.
Give your SE VAR a mold or complex assembly to draw from scratch,
something he hasn't seen (avoiding the canned demo), one that takes
100 hours to draw in another current mainstream popular CAD program,
give him an hour! see what happens.....they will be back pedaling
faster than you can say "missed release date".
email@example.com wrote in news: firstname.lastname@example.org:
He already said that that is not what he does. I think it is up to you
or Jon B to submit the mold to the var and see what happens.
I look forward to a report from Phil on how SE with ST works for him.
I also hope that there maybe some mold makers or multi axis guys out there
who use SE for complex solids who will report on how it works for them with
For the example I said mold or complex assembly but it could be what
ever product Phil designs to check the 100x faster/better claim.
It wouldn't mean anything to Phil if not used on his work. The mold
was a bad example from the beginning since ST as I understand it
doesn't work with surfaces.
It is interesting to know what is delivered vs. hype, as others have
said if it's half as good it will be worth the money. However just
drawing or editing a part is a small portion of the total.
Not what I said there Jon but missing the point is not new to you. You
posed as a SolidWorks expert in these groups for many years only to
let it slip last year you were just beginning to learn SolidWorks.
The program has changed so much in ten years that I'm still way behind
where I need to be.
]- Jon Banquer - Aug. 26, 2007
You kept ranting about "design intent" and how hard it is to
understand how the model was built. I responded that I didn't have the
same problems as you. I said for you to post specifics about your
problems and one of the more experienced users in the group would be
more than happy to help you.
It soon became clear what you really were doing. You were copying,
pasting, plagiarizing & parroting others particularly without
understanding, in this case SolidMap. You couldn't post specifics
about "your" specific problem or send a file to make your point and/or
get help because your posts were a fraud.
I'd hate to be using SolidWorks
] - Jon Banquer - Jan 15, 2005
Without a doubt SaladWorks is a complete piece of shit
]- Jon Banquer - May 21, 2006
Hope you try and make the move to SolidWorks 2007 soon.
] -Jon Banquer- September 30, 2006
From what I've seen of the free myigetit videos they do as well. I
hope to finish the SolidProfessor videos I just purchased
( $600 Professional Package) in the next 2 weeks. When I do, I'll
spend the $25 for the myigetit SolidWorks 2007 course
] -Jon Banquer- July 1, 2007
SolidWorks has changed so much since I've been away from it and I feel
like I'm really far behind.
] - Jon Banquer - Aug. 8, 2007
It takes a lot of effort to really understand SolidWorks.
] - Jon Banquer - Aug 8, 2007
SolidWorks is consuming every available minute of my learning time
]- Jon Banquer - Aug 12, 2007
You are a PEBCAK* error, What the business calls someone who simply
doesn't know what he was talking about.
*problem exists between chair and keyboard
Well according to your posts you were just beginning to learn
SolidWorks after a 10 year absence. You know where you paid $600 for
the SolidProfessor videos & purchased Matt Lombard's SolidWorks Bible.
Please post where I made any such claim.
All I said was I don't seem to be having the same beginner problems
you were having and if you would post specifics more experienced users
are more than willing to help you.
A customer gives you a solid model (the one in the video), a single
part, from SolidWorks and you import it into any of the "Synchronous
Technology" Programs available.
How do you determine original design intent?
Is design intent no longer a concern?
With the original constraints removed (as you claim synchronous
technology does when importing models from other programs), when you
start hacking and whacking the model, how do you a machinist or anyone
else determine original design intent on that imported model, as well
as fit, form and function when you start making changes?
How do you determine which (critical) dimensions on the imported model
should be locked and which can be unlocked?
And while your at it, per your previous posts, what exactly does your
engineering department do while you say you are hacking and whacking
customer supplied models so they are easier for you to make?
Speaking of Ignorant, you still think there is no such thing as
Chaining in GibbsCAM or SmartCAM?
You never chain geometry in Gibbs or SmartCAM. It's not necessary.
] - Jon Banquer - May 20, 2005
Create the elements in any order, and sequence them later, using
modeling tools such as Chain.
] -SmartCAM Manual -
Jon did you even read Bob's post, the one you copied?
I can show you how the geometry in GibbsCAM is chained. Here you go,
the program needs to know this as a minimum to chain:
1) profile start
2) profile end
So lets look at machining markers and what Bottle Bob describes:
"The white round marker is where the toolpath starts,"
"the black round marker is where it ends."
"blue arrow is the direction"
"they tell the tool to either go on the outside of the
geometry, the inside of the geometry, OR centered on the geometry."
Now if BB clicks on the blue arrow and reverses it he just reversed
the chain direction. If BB clicks on the white box and drags it to
another position he just edited the chains start point.
You can call it "Chaining" (since that is the original widely accepted
term) or you can call it "Machining Markers", hell you can even
call it "Santa Clause" if you want as long as it tells the CAM program
where the profile start, end, direction and offset is. All CAM
programs have to know that information in order to calculate the
offset tool path, by any other name it's still "chaining".
You keep posting one! The same one over and over and over again.
It is eight or more years old and has to do with me taking the upgrade
path SDRC set up for us SmartCAM users when they purchased SmartCAM.
CAMAX slowed development when they bought Point Control (SmartCAM) and
SDRC killed SmartCAM after they purchased CAMAX.
SDRC offered Artisan and GenMach "FREE" to all SmartCAM users with
current software maintenance agreements which we were.
The mistake I made was my spending my time to learn and evaluate
Artisan and GenMach. We were a long time loyal SmartCAM customer, we
were their customer to lose, they lost us when they killed SmartCAM
and gave us Artisan & GenMach as our upgrade path.
The company I worked for still uses SmartCAM V11.5 and a huge plus
they haven't had to pay software maintenance fees in 8 or more years.
They are running it with custom macros I wrote for them nearly 10
years ago and there still is no CAM package on the market today that
is competitive for the work they do (including SE w/ST, LOL).
So Jon if files from your engineering department are importing just
fine into MasterCAM, why do you "YOU" need SolidEdge with ST?
Still have a lot to learn about Mastercam. Currently working
with a lot of Pro-E IGES files. So far it all imports very clean with
]-Jon Banquer -March 31, 2008
Engineers who don't upload current files to our Intranet.
] -Jon Banquer-
I'm committed to working with HSMWorks to doing just that. Shouldn't
be too hard because their head of US operations and I see things in
almost the exact same way and because HSMWorks is interested in what I
have to say and wants to work with me.
]- Jon Banquer -
Who I'm working with to deliver what truly will be the next generation
I understand why your shop did not go with HSMWorks. We have a lot of
work to do.
] - Jon Banquer
Jon is not affiliated with HSMWorks ApS in any way and that we cannot
control what people are writing on the web. Anybody can get
evaluation licenses of HSMWorks and test it themselves. I hope this
clarifies any doubt.
] - HSMWorks ApS -
Your credibility Jon, "YOUR" credibility is zero.
As I posted: End of July, early August. I also posted you can hold me
to this time frame.
] -Jon Banquer -
As usual, Jon Banquer is wrong! again!
Must be something in the translation, according to SolidEdge site it
ships in a week or two to their customers.