N-Scale: New Product- Double Board 3/3 D type

SMD Products is proud to announce the latest arrival to the signal family. SMD N 114.

It is available immediately.

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Regards

Alain Pelletier SMD Product reseller

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Best Regards

Allain,

Might want to clean up your site. When I browse it, the text box on the right side is chopped off, so I can't read it. Same goes for a number of the pages in the site. I am very interested in the product, but until I can see the full page, I won't be considering any of it.

I am using Konqueror as by browser, running in 1024x768 with 16bit colour.

Good luck,

Carolyn

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Carolyn Marenger

I think it is your browser. I am using Netscape and no problems and I also tried it with Internet Explorer and no problem.

Nice site Alain!

ChrisGW

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It might be my browser, but there are lots of us using this browser on the net. If the site is written to html/xml standards rather than focussing on one or two browsers features, then they will potentially increase their viewing market. It was just a suggestion to them.

I like to let people know when their site isn't viewable by me. It gives them a chance to improve it for everyone. For the same reasons, I like it when people send me comments about my site.

Carolyn

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Carolyn Marenger

I use iCab (Mac only) and while I can view the site, it's not happy (literally... iCab evaluates the HTML of the site as it loads, and gave it a frowning face!) with the HTML code. iCab lists 69 errors listed on that page alone.

_MOST_ of them are due to the use of the "&" in a link URL. It wants it coded as "&". This isn't really an HTML error, so they can be dismissed. I've noticed too that there is no "creator" information in the head meta tags. These aren't _required_, but it's usually a good idea. However, there are other problems:

Warning (1/1): is missing. Error (5/93): The tag is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict". Warning (5/101): In the tag the value of the attribute "WIDTH" must be enclosed in quotes. Warning (5/171): In the tag the value of the attribute "HREF" must be enclosed in quotes. Error (5/334): The tag is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict". Warning (5/334): The attribute "BORDER" is not allowed for the tag . Error (7/28): was used, though the body section has already started. Error (11/1): The tag is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict". Warning (16/34): In the tag the value of the attribute "HREF" must be enclosed in quotes. (Multiple incidents) Warning (16/88): In the tag the value of the attribute "SRC" must be enclosed in quotes. (Multiple incidents)

The situation gets even worse using plugging the URL into the HTML checker at

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Unfortunately, HTML is like the early days of model railroading - there are standards for interoperation, but a lot of folks (particularly Micro$oft) don't seem to think the standards apply to THEM. M$ products such as FrontPage and Word generate HORRENDOUSLY bloated HTML with loads of non-standard tags. As an exercise once I took a largish page generated in Frontpage and cut all the extraneous, non-standard, and redundant HTML out of it. When I was finished, it was 1/4 the original file size, and rendered that much faster as well.

It took a full day to do it...

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Joe Ellis

thanks for the heads up guys, I use Netscape and IE and while I knew that I had errors, it rendered fine so I didn't think much of it.

Using PHP means that little routines can be included and one error gets multiplied many times in while loops etc. I assume it's going to take a while to correct the hundreds of pages on my site but that's what I gotta do this week!

Alain Pelletier

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alain

When you've finished you week's work, let me know. I am in terested in N scale signals. I also appreciate that you are willing to look into making it more compatible.

Thanks, Carolyn

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Carolyn Marenger

The HTML Validation for the signals should be greatly improved.

All Signal pages have been revised and should render ok.

Other pages on my web site are going to be revised this week. Again thanks for the warning.

Alain

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alain

I don't know why, but it is still screwing up on my display. The only way I can see it is to stretch the window across two monitors.

I am going to examine the html code and see if I can figure out what the cause is. I'll let you know if it's my system, the browser, or something on the site. (I have never seen anything like this before.)

Carolyn

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Carolyn Marenger

It isn't my system, as it is happening on a second box as well.

It isn't my browser (konqueror), as it is also happening, to a lesser degree, in mozilla.

I found the offending code. There are actually two items involved.

In the left column, the following code is trying to load an image that it can't locate. Two broswers, at least, seem to be maxing the cell within the table, to make space for it. This happens in both Konqueror and Opera. Konqueror is worse. Fixing or removing the link will probably solve the problem.

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The next item relates to the six paypal "Add to Cart" and "View Cart" graphics. Because they appear in a table side by side, they are wider than my actual screen. (1024 - screen border - first column width) < (second column width). Note: Some browsers autmoatically reduce the size of graphics, allowing the user to zoom in to see the detail. Those browsers probably would not have this issue. I use Konqueror, and have also checked it in Mozilla and Opera. Each of these does the exact same thing.

If they were lined up vertically rather than horizontally, they wouldn't need as much horizontal space.

$53.18 USD [Add to Cart] $63.00 CAD [Add to Cart]

45.48 EURO [Add to Cart] L36.96 GBP [Add to Cart] Y5529.75 YEN [Add to Cart] [VIEW CART]

As a last note, using tables to control layout is quite common, but is not recommended. It is an easy way to do it, and for a while it was the only way. In complex layouts like yours, it can lead to spurious errors like the two above.

CSS offers better methods of manipulating the layout, and now most browsers support CSS quite well. There is a learning curve, but the end results can look very nice.

Carolyn

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Carolyn Marenger

I'm using Mozilla 1.6, and your Signal page comes through with horizontal and vertical scroll bars. I don't recall seeing scroll bars on the page itself before, just on the browser.

It looks like your page is too big somehow, and the scroll bars let you move it around a little.

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It seems that I'm going to have to revise my navigation (left) and continue crushing PHP and HTML bugs which have accumulated. All this without affecting the pages that do work.

A task which has been neglected for far too long.

I downloaded Opera and found that the pages render ok now except where extra large pictures - Resolution is 1024 x =768 In 800 x 600, my left navigation takes about half the page so that's no good. With Opera, you can reduce the view.

I have modified the table for payments and corrected the dead picture. In effort to get immediate results.

Thanks for the CSS suggestion. I will check it out after I have squashed hundreds of bugs :-)

I don't know how scroll bars have appeared on the page. I certainly don't see that here with Opera, Netscape or IE.

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alain

Scroll bars are NORMAL when a page exceeds the dimensions of the window. You WANT it to do that!

I would suggest NOT rewiting the pages before learning CSS. You'll only end up re-writing them again. Been there, done that! ;) (Advantage of doing CSS - I revamped an entire web site in about an hour, just by changing the style sheet... you make the changes ONCE, and you're done.)

Onw thing I would suggest is using framesets (not IFrames) instead of tables, particularly for the head/left nav/main window. You can load a frame pane with new contents without reloading the entire page.

I use "HTML4 Bible, 2nd Edition", Pfaffenberger and Karow, IDG books. ISBN 0-7645-3473-4. $39.99 US, $59.99 CA

It included a CD... the DreamWeaver WYSIWYG HTML program beats the hell out of any M$ product. Limited time demo, but fully functional.

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Joe Ellis

My suggestion is to leave it as is, and learn CSS. Then revamp the site once, incorporating CSS. After that, layout changes are a snap. A quick edit to the one CSS file and voila - the whole site is updated. You can also throw in seasonal items very easily. For example, on New Brunswick Day, place the flag in the upper left corner of each page. At midnight thast day, it comes out again.

Good luck with it. If you want some assistance or advice, feel free to email me.

Carolyn

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Carolyn Marenger

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