Can someone ID some exotic tig welding rods...

I acquired a few old interesting welding rods and would like to know more about them. What are they and how they are used.

  1. A bunch of silvery, soft rods looking like tin saying "universal mould". by Welco.

  1. Approximately 2.5 lbs of grey "tungsten wire", 3/32", eighteen 36" pieces. by Sylvania. Looks like pure tungsten to me. Is that "tungsten filler rod" for actually welding tungsten metal objects?

  2. 410 S/S filler rod. I think that digitalmaster mentioned that it can be used for welding any stainless, just not for most critical applications, can it also be used for joining stainless to mild steel?

  1. Mystery rods labeled 1/8"-36" 1220-A. They are hard metal, harder to scratch with a pocket knife than ER70S2.

  2. Alloy Rods Company filler rods labeled in writing "oil hard." Not very hard material when scratched with my pocket knife.

  1. More rods by same company labeled "hot work".

I am quite intrigued by them and will appreciate any clues.

thank you

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Ignoramus18660
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Are you sure the tungsten wire isn't for tig tips? The 410 sounds handy to have around. Ron BTW, you have no debt to me. Always fun to help someone revive something.

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Ron Moore

Dang, Iggy. If that is W, ... checked spot price on it lately?

#2 goes right to the tungsten buying place someone here mentioned, if it was me.

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Dave Hinz

These nearly sound like tool steel repair rods. Very expensive if they are. You should perhaps consider talking to a tig rod supplier.

Regards,

Robin

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Robin S.

I am not sure if those rods are not for tig electrodes, but I think that they are not, they are not shiny like my other rods.

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Ignoramus27404

Dave, believe it or not, I tried finding one yesterday, and all I got from google was junk sites, ebay affiliates etc.

Well, if you ever come across that place's name again, let me know. I definitely do not need 2.5 lbs of tungsten myself.

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Ignoramus27404

Thank you Robin. I will try to find out more on Monday (will try to find that company and call it, if it is still in business) and I will let you know. I am sure that hardfacing filler rod or tool steel rod is very useful, although I probably need a lot less than I have.

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Ignoramus27404

Hm. Someone here just talked about selling Tungsten machining inserts to a scrapper, can't google up the thread right now though. Do a weight/displacement test to check but if it's W, it'll be hella-heavy just to lift.

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that's just the going rate, not the people buying it. Someone here may remember the thread name or source.

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Bill Nelson

Sounds great. Thank you. Now I know a lot more about them, seems like useful stuff to have in small quantity.

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Ignoramus27404

I wonder about the Sylvania W material - remember Sylvania is a light bulb maker, was a Vacuum tube maker and all of them used Tungsten filaments. It might be sources to be drawn into filaments on the production lines or more likely the TIG welder on the line to do spot welds here and there.

Just a guess. W is a fibrous material and a good or fair source of electrons due to the surface area. I don't know how it would handle a large TIG weld.

Martin

Mart> I acquired a few old interesting welding rods and would like to know

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Martin H. Eastburn

I would vote for the latter.

Sylvania makes various tungsten stuff, in general.

It is supposed to be weldable with TIG, if I recall correctly.

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Ignoramus27404

Drilling out some bullet noses and putting in some tungsten might prove interesting. That 3/32 sounds just about perfect for penetrators, though

1/8" might be better.

Gunner

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Gunner

Yeah. If you remember, I also have some 3/16" tungstens, or 4.76mm, could work out for 7.62 mm bullets (I would probably need to put more gunpowder to compensate for the heavier bullet). I will definitely keep some of that 3/32" rod, maybe 3-4 rods.

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Ignoramus27404

If you email me your list of rods..Ill pull out my old Fabrication and Welding books. Ive got complete listings of electrode/wire/filler types for nearly all companies going back at least 30 yrs and Ill list em for you.

Gunner

The aim of untold millions is to be free to do exactly as they choose and for someone else to pay when things go wrong.

In the past few decades, a peculiar and distinctive psychology has emerged in England. Gone are the civility, sturdy independence, and admirable stoicism that carried the English through the war years . It has been replaced by a constant whine of excuses, complaints, and special pleading. The collapse of the British character has been as swift and complete as the collapse of British power.

Theodore Dalrymple,

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Gunner

Gunner -

Get flat ended not boat tails - and drill from behind. Then the Tungsten will follow through but not make a blunt nose.

Like the 6.5mm TCU .264 120 gr. Sierra Spitzer :-)

I'll soon be re-loading both the 85 and 120 grains myself.

Martin

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Martin H. Eastburn

naturally Gunner and I know that loading Tungsten into bullet heads leads to a visit by a god badge guy...

Armor piercing bullets are un-lawful last time I looked. Normal rounds like the 308 do bad enough job, but the 'black tip' ones are not allowed.

Martin Martin H. Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH & Endowment Member NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member

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Mart> Gunner -

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Martin H. Eastburn

Gunner, what information do you want? Manufacturers and whatever numbers I can find?

thanks

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Ignoramus27404

I do not believe that such a blanket statement is true in all states. AP bullets are legal according to Federal law. Some states may have laws against them.

Come to think of it, all high power rifle bullets can penetrate pretty much any body armor, simply due to their velocity and mass. So a law against AP ammunition would be relatively pointless. AP ammunition can possibly penetrate armored vehicles armor, where regular ammo could not, which is not a pressing issue in the US at the moment.

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Ignoramus27404

Actually..AP is totally legal in most states, and there is no Federal law against them. Tracers are a no no in most states, simply because of the fire hazzards involved.

Gunner

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