whats the deal with spam

The problem is that you are using your email address ( snipped-for-privacy@earthlink.net) in your posts. Most companies that generate spam have programs that harvest email addresses from newsgroups, not just a few newsgroups but ALL of them (there are 15,000+ newsgroups). The minute you post (like you did by starting this thread) or respond to a post (like I did by answering you) these programs have captured the email adderess used and begin to send spam. the only way to stop this is to spam trap your email address, either by making a commpletely false address like mine or by adding words or characters to your email adderess ("NOSPAM" is a favorite) or using an email account from someplace like hotmail or yahoo which you check once a week or once a month. Ken

PS: Everytime you post or reply your email address gets put on the list, even if you are already there, which is why you often get duplicate spam emails (they send it to you once for everytime you are on the list).

THis is the reason for snipped-for-privacy@NOTmail.com where to reply by email the not is hot and you have to pull the hook out. This explains your other reply to that spam. Dont know how you can get off that list now without changing your email name. Maybe there's a Do Not SPam list. If you are seeing the spam when you pull in the newsgroup headers maybe you need to switch to something like News.Individual.NET cause I dont see any of that in the actual newsgroup.

Forger Member bASS

I prefer my spam fried on a hard roll with spicey brown mustard,,, Damn Vikings!!!

JPH

Mmm toasted spam and cheese sounds good for lunch

k. hope this helps... lol thx for the info

Worked like magic for me when I changed ISPs.

XX = panix

Don't care who knows it, as long as the "spambots" don't get it. :)

Alvin in AZ ps- "what Ken Vale said" ;)

"Paul" wrote in news:wp4Bd.7833$ snipped-for-privacy@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:

Although not applicable to net news there is a very excelent spam filter called "SpamBayes". It is free and can be found at

In a nut shell spambayes filters spam by appling a Bayesian filter to contents of an email.

Because of this filter I do not wory about posting to news groups because I never see the spam which inevitably follows.

brad

What's the down side to it? Is there any?

Alvin in AZ

For starters, download Mozilla (it's free) and dump Outlaw Express. That will get rid of the M$'s "clever" automatic execution.

Ted

snipped-for-privacy@XX.com wrote in news:cr6usd$8uh$ snipped-for-privacy@reader1.panix.com:

Hmmm .... That depends on what you consider a downside. There is a training process which one needs to supply "ham (good email) and spam". Since many of us get copious amounts of spam the training process is usually fairly short. There is also the possibility of false positives, although; todate, I have not had in one and a half years of use. There are also mechanisims for ongoing training and false positive recovery.

Spambayes comes with several solutions to suit any platform but the most elequant solution is to use the MS Outlook addin. This could be considered a drawback. I personaly use Outlook so it is not a problem for me.

brad

What?!? If anything I've noticed that it was faster (I run a linux box now and it is a little hard to compare the speeds of Mozilla and IE when IE won't run on the machine...), if speed and bare bones surfing is all you want download Firefox (the Super fast Version of Mozilla, available at the Mozilla site).

Ken

Have you tried a current version of Mozilla or Firefox? I have occasion to use both IE and Firefox on my work computer, and Firefox seems a bit faster (but not a huge difference). Once you try tabbed browsing you'll never go back, even if freedom from popups, much stronger immunity to malicious code and automatic spam sorting don't convince.

Steve

Eide wrote:

Ken Vale Spaketh Thusly:

I'm running Firefox and I do like it better than IE, except there's quite a few websites out there that it can't handle, so often I'll end up with both open.

I totally agree that OE is awful, but frankly, I haven't seen much better from netscape or mozilla. For usenet, try Forte's Agent (there's a free version, I use the paid version). For email, nothing yet is as good as Eudora (free and paid versions both available)

for Agent

-- Bill H. [my "reply to" address is real]

Molon Labe!

That is because the people that made those sites used Microsoft web development software, this means that it uses "special advanced html codes" (that would be codes that other systems can't read unless someone pays Microsoft money or they Hack the code). There were a few government websites that had this problem and the developers got in trouble as they did not comply with the government codes on accessability. Mozilla/Firefox has mostly worked around this coding problem, but other programs run into problems (in fact a Mac/Apple systems have the same problem). It has been a long time since I have run into this problem and very likely I'm not despirit for any information that such a site would contain.

I don't run a windows system anymore I run LINUX, Eudora and Agent do not work on that (but thanks for the suggestion) Ken

For email I use Pine. (free product of University of Washington;)

If you want pictures displayed of your work email them to me. :)

XX = panix

Panix is a "shell accounts are first with us" ISP.

I'll get your "attached file" pictures and type...

~/public_html/

in front of the file name and change their mode with...

chmod 744 *

And that's it. :)

Well, except I'll prob'ly change the files' names... I'm just wierd that way is all. :/

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Alvin in AZ

I had an old version that was slow but the more recent one is, as far as I can tell, keeping up the server sending the stuff and I'm on ADSL. BTW, this machine is an older ThinkPad with a 233MHz Pentium II. Ted