amplifying wind power???

the required wind power can be reduced (shaft power etc) by storing it in the mechanical side instead of electrical. there can be a device which has a kg capacity spring which stores the input and upon hitting its capacity, gets disconnected from the drive (drive remains inputting the power to other spring which comes replacing this) by means of clutch (a clutch is a device which attatches two diff mech moving systems for a rated load above rated load it slipps or can disconect using an interlock). the loaded spring gets connecetd to another spring and transfers the mech input in pipeline to the generators (many). there can be many pipelines too. the front of the device looks like many rotating fly wheels who drive the springs.

the idea is reduction in mech input as the power is summed from springs. if i take the mech kva equal or more than the electrical, there is a limitation. i can not have lower wind power or my generator wont start.

dhananjay

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Reply to
L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

energy storage is not amplification.

your subject line is misleading.

Reply to
TimPerry

Because of less than good English, I have difficulty understanding the details of your suggestion.

Many of the problems you describe have been worked on in one way or another for centuries. In many cases, they have led to improvements of impedance matching. Both electrical and mechanical. The fusee in a clock or watch is one example.

If you want your ideas to receive further consideration, rework them using good grammar and select your words more carefully.

Bill

-- Ferme le Bush

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Salmon Egg

the grammer is bad i accept. there is no new idea may be for you but i am here finding it difficult to make people around believe that wind power can be used at any place without much consistant wind patterns etc as was pointed to me , that man said wind power stations are only possible in hill side or where deserts or where strong wind patterns exist unlike city etc etc

i had that limitation in mind when i come to this solution of reducing required wind patterns, by storing mechanically and not electrically. as pointed in OP, the effect is reduction in shaft power and so the wind generator can be used at more locations also its application is for portable electronics if i had not pointed , the portable/wearable electronics cant be truely free from sockets unless has its generator.

i feel the smaller vesion of wind generator can make it for this market.

oh no. am i in your past? whats year there?

dhananjay

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dhananjay

--------------------- Consider how the torque to wind up a spring increases as you wind it. The result would likely be that the turbine would stall before any significant energy is stored in the spring. There is also the factor that a spring, such as on a garage door opener, which may store only a few hundred watt-seconds (i.e. energy to run a 100 watt bulb for a few seconds), can be extremely dangerous if it fails-and they do-people have been killed. Now consider the case of a spring which could store 1KWH. Result- expensive and dangerous storage of a relatively small amount of energy.

Springs have their uses but also have their limitations. All is not nearly as simple as you imply.

Reply to
Don Kelly

Better to pump water up hill (no electricity needed) and release it through a turbine.

That's why they pay engineers real money. ;-)

Reply to
krw

I think it is hard to beat a battery for storring power and giving it back.

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gfretwell

Like the ones who designed "The big dig"?

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Michael A. Terrell

What makes you think that the money went to engineers?

Bill

-- Ferme le Bush

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Salmon Egg

your imagination is seeing that spring is higher rated than shaft. no man. why would it be so?? shaft has power and spring is the means to pas it to the generator.

the idea of pipelined springs which may be acting in parallel, can serve to distribute the packets of required amount of mechanical energy input.

the springs will not store the energy for long till they pass it on to next spring. now about big springs etc 100 watts you said. i think you did not see the application it is seen as portable electronics!!!!

dhananjay

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dhananjay

The problems outlined can be interpreted from the viewpoint of impedance matching. The impedance matching can be pictured as mechanical or electrical or even chemical. The point is, that a typical alternator likes to be driven at a particular torque and angular velocity or (mechanical) impedance of T/w. Early chronometers solved that problem with fusees. But it will persist with springs, capacitors, and flywheels. That is why nonlinear electronics is needed to make use of such storage methods.

Bill

-- Ferme le Bush

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Salmon Egg

My problem is that I do know something about mechanics. All you have is a way to actually waste energy in a complicated and possibly dangerous way.

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Don Kelly

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